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Per Fischer
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« on: September 22, 2004, 01:01:24 AM »

My copy of DitV arrived safely through my letterbox yesterday, and I have been reading it since, family life and sleep permitting.
It looks and reads gorgeous, and I can't wait playtesting it as it is. The conlict resolution mechanics sound awesome in theory - so simple and yet so versatile and scalable. And a big plus to Vincent (or whoever is responsible for the almost psalm-like layout) for choosing Oldstyle fonts and not putting any illustrations in the book. I think that's just about perfect.

Thanks, brother.
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Joshua A.C. Newman
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2004, 12:13:31 PM »

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And a big plus to Vincent (or whoever is responsible for the almost psalm-like layout) for choosing Oldstyle fonts and not putting any illustrations in the book. I think that's just about perfect.


Wow, thanks!

Not to worry you, but there will be illustrations in future editions. I promise I'll make them as tasteful and integrated as I can.
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2004, 12:29:00 PM »

I was thinking as I read through the example combat in the barn that "this is where they'd usually have a picture of some people fighting."  But then I thought, my mental image was as good as anything that could have been drawn.  I would like more pictures of Dogs, though, to let folks leaf through it and be inspired, but that would be gravy.
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2004, 01:18:11 PM »

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I was thinking as I read through the example combat in the barn that "this is where they'd usually have a picture of some people fighting."  But then I thought, my mental image was as good as anything that could have been drawn.  I would like more pictures of Dogs, though, to let folks leaf through it and be inspired, but that would be gravy.


Ah, no, not that kind of illustration at all.

Don't worry. It'll look great, and it won't be obnoxious, neither.
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2004, 01:25:16 PM »

Per: thank you! I'm glad it's there.

I quite like the unillustrated book too.

-Vincent
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2004, 06:00:14 PM »

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Per: thank you! I'm glad it's there.

I quite like the unillustrated book too.

-Vincent


Hey! Who's side you on?
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2004, 09:05:11 AM »

I'm on the game's side. Whose side are YOU on?

Zing!

I had great conversations at GenCon with some really smart people about illustrations. We flipped through some books, compared what worked and what didn't. I sucked up a lot of wisdom. When we add illos to the book, they're going to be just right.

-Vincent
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2004, 09:16:03 AM »

Hey Vincent,

Count this as a vote for full-page illustrations with some kind of neat scrolled frames, like a 19th-century portrait - or better, photograph, with the people sitting or standing stiffly.

Also, have you considered using a larger font size? The look of the book is great, reminds me of a religious tract. Larger print, though, is what I keep wanting as I actually read it. It's not a vision, can-I-read-it thing, but rather an information, this-stuff-is-here thing.

Best,
Ron
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2004, 09:45:33 AM »

I have. To both!

-Vincent
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DannyK
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2004, 11:03:27 AM »

I liked the size too.  It made me think of old-style political pamphlets.  The very complete reference sheet that you include with the rulebook makes up for a lot in terms of convenience.
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2004, 11:09:43 AM »

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Hey Vincent,

Count this as a vote for full-page illustrations with some kind of neat scrolled frames, like a 19th-century portrait - or better, photograph, with the people sitting or standing stiffly.


Ha ha! You read my brains! Except that we can't get 19th century overbearing with the borders. The way it is on the cover was the compromise between modern sensibilities and 19th century ornamentation.

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Also, have you considered using a larger font size? The look of the book is great, reminds me of a religious tract. Larger print, though, is what I keep wanting as I actually read it. It's not a vision, can-I-read-it thing, but rather an information, this-stuff-is-here thing.


I hadn't really thought of that, but then, I don't really read the words so much as look at them as a shape. I don't see why not, and if it makes it easier to find stuff, then great.
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2004, 12:52:06 PM »

I was thinking illustrations would be cool as half-page pieces each of which was a catalog entry from early Sears and Roebucks (or DI?) catalogs.  I have a vision in mind that I don't know how to convey, but it's novel and cool. :-)

Chris
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