"Help" Help

[Supplanter]

There was one aspect of the Helping Die rules our group found ambiguous in the text. I'd appreciate being straightened out on it.

If I help another Dog with a Raise (not a See), can he end up with three dice on the table, or only two?

IOW, does the helpee make a regular two-die raise to which the helping die is added, or does he add one die (and only one die) of his own to the helping die to make a standard two-die raise?

Thanks,


Jim

[dunlaing]

If someone who knows the answer to this can respond by 7:00pm EDT this Wednesday, I'd appreciate it...

[Brand_Robins]

I've always played it that they end up with three dice.

Seems consistant with both the rules for helping on a see and for the fact that the helper loses a dice on their next raise.

[cdr]

I've always played it that you wind up with three dice, for the reasons Brand says, even though p72 doesn't come right out and say that.

BTW, a fun tactic for three Dogs using Ceremony to cast out demons is to have one raise asserting Three in Authority and the other two help, so you get 4 dice totalling 21+ with d8 fallout that can't be blocked or dodged.   Oh, I suppose there could be a fourth Dog Helping the other side, in which case it could be blocked.  That would be fun too!)

--Carl