Friends in high places

[Mytholder]

I'm sitting here watching a chat over at enworld with Peter Adkinson, and the question comes up "who would Peter like to game with?". After the usual answer (Tweet, Greg Stafford, Tracy Hickman), Peter says
"I just got done studying Sorcerer by Ron Edwards, so I'd love to try a game with him some day."

[Clinton R. Nixon]

Dude, don't tell Ron that stuff. Peter Adkinson said he just got through "studying" Sorcerer? That's going to appeal to Professor Edwards a bit too much, methinks. Watch for exploding head-fragments.

- Clinton, who is being saucy, but not serious

[jburneko]

But, "studying" is such an appropriate word for Sorcerer.  I've read the core book like 3 times.  I've read Sorcerer & Sword at least twice and I've read Sorcerer's Soul a good 4 or 5 times.  This is a game you NEED to study to properly wrap your head around.  And it's worth it too.

Jesse

[Paul Czege]

"I just got done studying Sorcerer by Ron Edwards, so I'd love to try a game with him some day."

Now how's that timing and choice of words for a whoops betrayal that you're one of the "closed, anonymous committee" members who'll be selecting the http://www.erstwhile.demon.co.uk/dianajones/">Diana Jones Award winner in just a couple of weeks?

Paul

[Christopher Kubasik]

Good work there Paul.

[Mike Holmes]

Dude, don't tell Ron that stuff. Peter Adkinson said he just got through "studying" Sorcerer? That's going to appeal to Professor Edwards a bit too much, methinks. Watch for exploding head-fragments.

Yep, I thought it was bad enough when Adkison bought Woody out of copies of Sorcerer at Origins (stating that he was going to give them to all his friends, too). Must be nice when the owner of GenCon is buying up your stock. :-)

Think he'll come by and join in a demo?

Mike

[Ron Edwards]

C'mon guys,

It was only a couple of copies of Sorcerer at Origins. (I had it wrong when I thought it was more, by the way.)

A man can like a game without it being a federal case, right?

Granted - I definitely appreciate Peter's custom, interest, and willingness to cite me and the game.

Best,
Ron

[PeterAdkison]

*Studying* is indeed the appropriate term.

I had a couple of friends come over and generate characters. I hadn't felt this intimidated in a long time!

My friend CJ created a boxer, still in his prime but recently defeated by a boxer who he thinks was a passer demon and he's trying to figure out who the sorcerer is. His own demon is a passer doberman pincer. The demon's need is to have aggressive stare downs with people to see who backs down first (will checks I'm guessing).

Steve Conard (yes, the same Steve Conard who designed the Legends MTG set) created an archeologist character with an inconspicuous shadow demon. His demon's need is to merge with other peoples' shadows.

So any good games of Sorcerer going on at Gen Con I could get into?  Probably the only times I could play would be *late* night on Thu after the block party or Fri after the ENnies.

I played Diana in the demo game and really enjoyed playing her. The game got a little X-rated at one point--she turned out to be quite the slut...

[Ron Edwards]

Hi there,

The last time I played the demo, John Clements ogled the picture of Sharon Stone on Diana's sheet for a minute, and his first stated action in the game session was, "I just, you know, feel my breasts for a while."

A-hem!! What was I posting about?

Welcome to the Forge, Peter! Great to have you here.

I've got a couple of Sorcerer demos in the works for GenCon, in addition to the reunion one that everyone is beginning to know and love. That one, by the way, has been extensively revised in terms of helpful text. I'll be looking to play the game a lot, so either Thursday or Friday will be slated. So yup, Sorcerer play, for sure.

Peter, at Origins, we all played like madmen. There's a thread in the Actual Play forum you'll like, as it communicates the enthusiasm and punk creativity that continually escalated through the con for everyone. I anticipate even more of that at GenCon - more games, more folks, more money flowin' in, and more time.

Best,
Ron

[Uncle Dark]

Hi, Peter.  Welcome to the Forge.

About those demons you mentioned...  Is there something more sinister to the shadow demon's merging with a shadow?  It seems like an extremely easy to meet need otherwise, and might be a problem for the sorcerer later down the line.  Consider, if the demon rebels (with many successes) it could completely escape its summoner, meeting its need  whenever it likes.

Which, of course, might make great stuff in a story...

Lon

[PeterAdkison]

Ron Edwards writes:

The last time I played the demo, John Clements ogled the picture of Sharon Stone on Diana's sheet for a minute, and his first stated action in the game session was, "I just, you know, feel my breasts for a while."

Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm embarassed to admit this, but in the last few years I learned enough about fashion (thanks to some shallow "friends") and hollywood that I was able to play her a little *too* well. My description of what she was wearing the party could have been quoted right from cosmo.

Welcome to the Forge, Peter! Great to have you here.

Thanks!  This looks like a fun hangout. I suspect I'll be a semi-regular lurker-light. There are times when work is so busy that I don't get past email for weeks at a time, and then I surface up and go skim my favorite boards to see if some thread or another catches my eye. If there's ever anything here you'd like me to see in particular, feel free to point it out directly.

I've got a couple of Sorcerer demos in the works for GenCon, in addition to the reunion one that everyone is beginning to know and love. That one, by the way, has been extensively revised in terms of helpful text. I'll be looking to play the game a lot, so either Thursday or Friday will be slated. So yup, Sorcerer play, for sure.

Cool. Well, I went through the demo game with Jot, although we incorrectly climaxed with the battle scene, as you know. I loved the scenario, although I prefer to not play it again.  Any chance of a post-reunion scenario?

This isn't very serindipitus (ugh, is that a word?) but if I'm going to get into a game it would be best to plan ahead. My schedule at Gen Con is really really tight.  Could we plan for a session now? While it would be extra cool to play with you as the author, I'm happy to play in any game run by an experienced sorcererer. I need some more play experience before trying to organize a session.

[PeterAdkison]

Hi, Peter.  Welcome to the Forge.

About those demons you mentioned...  Is there something more sinister to the shadow demon's merging with a shadow?  It seems like an extremely easy to meet need otherwise, and might be a problem for the sorcerer later down the line.  Consider, if the demon rebels (with many successes) it could completely escape its summoner, meeting its need  whenever it likes.

Which, of course, might make great stuff in a story...

Lon

Thanks for the warm welcome!  You know, this site looks like something I would have really loved back in 1990-1991 while I was stumbling around trying to figure out how to get involved in this industry. But back in those days it was mainly hangin' out in rec.games.frp (or was it rec.games.rpg? sheesh, it's been awhile...).

Anyway, I'm glad you asked this question, 'cause I was feeling like I was on a bit of shaky footing, and ended up feeling comfortable with the demon's need only because I didn't take time to try and look up something in the rules for clarification. Being lazy, I still haven't looked, so I'll just ask y'all. :-)

Does an inconspicuous demon have to stay near the sorcerer that bound it? I assumed not. Since this demon looks like a shadow, it seems that the need won't be *that* easy to meet. I'm thinking that be inconspicuous the demon most of the time stays in the shadowy area under the sorcerer, where you can't see it, like under the sorcerer's feet, or under his butt when he's sitting, whatever. But to go into someone else's shadow one of two things has to happen:

(1) The sorcerer has to get into the other person's shadow. Possibly not that difficult, but still requires getting pretty close to someone, perhaps into their personal space. While in that person's shadow the demon's in that shadow too.

(2) The demon has to run accross some lighted area and risk getting spotted.

I guess perhaps option 1 is pretty easy to do, just go to a crowded place where shadows merge all over the place, like an amusement park or something.

I'm open to suggestions.

I had the demon's desire to be knowledge and was thinking that the demon could learn something about someone when it got into their shadow, but maybe it would cause the person to feel a tug on their soul or something, sorta like a telltale.

So what happens when a demon rebels? Is it still bound to the original sorcerer? I thought a demon needed to be bound to a sorcerer to get its need met.

[Uncle Dark]

Peter,

How the demon moves is defined by the player when the character is generated, just like everything else about the demon.  The demon need not be in the same place as the sorcerer.

Rebellion need not break the binding, depending on how the binding has been played.  In fact, if it successfully rebels, it may still be technically bound, and can remain so forever, even after the binding sorcerer dies.  Given this demon's need, that means it could concievably run away and never come back, though if the sorcerer ever catches up to it it will probably be in trouble.

Look up the stuff on demonic rebellion on page 95.

Lon

[Clinton R. Nixon]

Peter,

Just to let you know, I'm going to be running Sorcerer at Dragonflight in Seattle this year. I don't know if you get around to the Seattle conventions as much, but if you get too busy at GenCon to play much, I'd be glad to run Sorcerer with you at Dragonflight, or outside of Dragonflight, for that matter.

[PeterAdkison]

Uncle Dark writes:

Rebellion need not break the binding, depending on how the binding has been played. In fact, if it successfully rebels, it may still be technically bound, and can remain so forever, even after the binding sorcerer dies. Given this demon's need, that means it could concievably run away and never come back, though if the sorcerer ever catches up to it it will probably be in trouble.

So the lesson here is that for demons like passer demons or inconspicuous demons that can move around on their own give them needs that only the sorcerer they're bound to can fill?  So the need of the other character's doberman pincer seems equally flawed.[/quote]