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svenlein
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« on: September 05, 2002, 04:22:31 AM »

This is a question I asked earlier but the thread died

Guy tries to punch me.
I parry with my sword.
As an added bonus to him not hitting me, do I get to cut his hand off?

Scott
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2002, 06:03:51 AM »

The simplest solution would be to use the extra successes from the parry as damage.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2002, 06:06:14 AM »

I think that suggestion was basically made somewhere during the other thread, before it got off-topic and turned to whether it was possible to parry a sword with your hand, instead.

But yes, I think Valamir has the best solution. Simple and elegant.
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Mokkurkalfe
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2002, 06:11:58 AM »

Umm, wouldn't that make a very successful parry more lethal than a less successful one.
What if a tie would give the entire damage(i.e ST+2 for a longsword) to the hand. Lower with 1 for every extra success of the parry.
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2002, 06:52:36 AM »

Quote from: Mokkurkalfe
Umm, wouldn't that make a very successful parry more lethal than a less successful one.
What if a tie would give the entire damage(i.e ST+2 for a longsword) to the hand. Lower with 1 for every extra success of the parry.


I think you're thinking of "what if I parry a sword with my hand." This is the opposite. I agree that Valamir's solution is simple and elegant (and has a good TROS feel to it, IMO).

Jake
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Mokkurkalfe
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2002, 07:30:29 AM »

Oops. Misread the question.
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2002, 01:47:26 PM »

hmmm  typical parrys use the flat of the blade (training to preserve the integrity of your blade),  i think think i'd assess either a -2d activation to parry with edge (not typical usage.. counter intuitive), otherwise I'd treat the parry as bludgeoning damage.  this preserves defensive abilities....  if you want to chop arms off  take the -  otherwise choose attack and aim for the arm at a +1 cp.
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2002, 09:06:04 PM »

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hmmm  typical parrys use the flat of the blade (training to preserve the integrity of your blade),  i think think i'd assess either a -2d activation to parry with edge (not typical usage.. counter intuitive), otherwise I'd treat the parry as bludgeoning damage.  this preserves defensive abilities....  if you want to chop arms off  take the -  otherwise choose attack and aim for the arm at a +1 cp.


While it's true that when deflecting/parrying that you receive blows with the flat of the blade, many parries are made aggressively by striking with the edge against the flat of the opponent's blade...thus striking with the edge as a parry against a hand attack is perfectly reasonable. I would not grant the +1 to hit the hand on such a parry, however.

Jake
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2002, 09:45:27 AM »

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Quote from: Thirsty Viking
hmmm  typical parrys use the flat of the blade (training to preserve the integrity of your blade),  i think think i'd assess either a -2d activation to parry with edge (not typical usage.. counter intuitive), otherwise I'd treat the parry as bludgeoning damage.  this preserves defensive abilities....  if you want to chop arms off  take the -  otherwise choose attack and aim for the arm at a +1 cp.


While it's true that when deflecting/parrying that you receive blows with the flat of the blade, many parries are made aggressively by striking with the edge against the flat of the opponent's blade...thus striking with the edge as a parry against a hand attack is perfectly reasonable. I would not grant the +1 to hit the hand on such a parry, however.

Jake


Thanks Jake, I'm not a swordfighter, but i play one on paper.   :-)

IN TFOB are the various defensive manuvers going to be given varrying levels of effectivness against different attack manuvers?
Just wondering..  not sure the detail is worth the trade offs.


The +1  to hit i was refering about  was attacking instead of defending...  red die against unarmed as opposed to white.   In case i was unclear about that,   i didn't think they should get + on the  parry.
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2002, 11:46:38 AM »

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IN TFOB are the various defensive manuvers going to be


uh...
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