A stab or shot at Kozak hand rifle

[Shadeling]

I was thinking of statting up the Kozak rifle mentioned in the book. I was thinking something like a 6-9 round prep time. Seem accurate? What do you think Jake?

I was also going with an ATN of 6 or 7, with +1 ATN per 5 yards, and maybe ST/DR of 5/ST+2.

Thoughts, comments...

[Jake Norwood]

I remember hearing (and actually loading) a black powder rifle in about 30 sec tops. I would base prep time on some actual number  like that. (That means about 15 or 20 rounds if 30 sec is right).

Jake

[Shadeling]

I remember hearing (and actually loading) a black powder rifle in about 30 sec tops. I would base prep time on some actual number  like that. (That means about 15 or 20 rounds if 30 sec is right).

Jake

Ok...how about the ATN/ damage figures I had...sound good to you?

[Jake Norwood]

Off the top of my head they seem pretty good.

[Shadeling]

Off the top of my head they seem pretty good.

Cool. Thanks for the feedback.

[Valamir]

Soldiers in the black powder days (when they were more concerned with volume of fire over accuracy) were expected to be able to load and fire 3 steady rounds per minute.  That's the norm, for an entire unit firing volleys.  I've seen modern users manage to duplicate that rate.  It would not be unreasonable to assume that a particularly adept gunman could do 4 or even 5.  

Now that number is for flintlocks.  Wheel locks would be about the same except for the periodic need to rewind the wheel.  For match locks you might want to drop it down a round or so which would be about 1 per 30 sec as noted.

[Ashren Va'Hale]

good black powder riflemen could fire off roughly 3 rounds a minute accurately (aka aiming). just want to confirm the previous.

[Ace]

A little OT (just a bit) but do any of you guys know how long it takes to load a black powder muzzle loading pistol like a flint lock or wheel lock?

on On topic, as far as the muzzle loader goes they are in game terms fire and forget weapons

30 seconds is about twenty exchanges IIRC, an eternity basically

What I would do is treat matchlock as a proficiency. Once 30 seconds have been spent prepping the weapon you start aiming and the CP's start building up.

I don't know exactly how many CP's over how long though

[MikeSands]

Soldiers in the black powder days (when they were more concerned with volume of fire over accuracy) were expected to be able to load and fire 3 steady rounds per minute.  That's the norm, for an entire unit firing volleys.  I've seen modern users manage to duplicate that rate.  It would not be unreasonable to assume that a particularly adept gunman could do 4 or even 5.

Good British army units could get 6 (musket) shots a minute.