Question about Combat

[Kaare_Berg]

Thanks, but a counter uses the opponents successes against him. Thus this mean that the countering party, B, also forfits his strike?

If not how do I count the opponents, A's, successes since he obviously had none?

Also, does a counter work if opponent misses?

[Overdrive]

Ah, *that* was the question :)
This is an unusual thing to happen, but why not go by the rules as written? If he misses, then the counter was not necessary, and depending on circumstances the defender might now be in trouble! Such is life :) (on a fumbled attack, the attacker still loses the dice so in a sense the counter worked)

While we're on the matter, what happens if the countering party rolls just as much successes as the attacking? This means the attacker still holds the initiative, but the counter "worked" since the defender didn't get hit. This happened during one session, and I ruled the defender doesn't get the bonus dice.

[Morfedel]

Just count all the successes of the countering party as an attack instead. If he fumbled when you were ready to counter attack, he is going to be terribly vulnerable at just the wrong time.