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5/15/2001 GreatWolf: Diverse Lunacy
Well, events have proceeded far enough that I can leak a little more information on Alyria. More details will be found in the next installment of Dreaming Out Loud (including…
In Dark Omen Games
Participants: GreatWolf, Jared A. Sorensen, Mike Holmes, Valamir, Gordon C. Landis.

5/15/2001 Paul Czege: I want my post back :(
Hey Clinton, Raven wrote this in a thread outside of "Site Discussion": I just wrote a particularly lengthy post on the issue and it was destroyed because it…
In Site Discussion
Participants: Paul Czege, Clinton R. Nixon.

5/15/2001 Jared A. Sorensen: Non-violent, combat-heavy D&D (?)
It's on the "memento monte" (hah!) d20 page. It's called Snowball Fight. Bundle up!
In Memento-Mori Theatricks
Participants: Jared A. Sorensen, Paul Czege, Jason L Blair.

5/14/2001 JSDiamond: Role-playing *is* alive and strong
I'm going to tell you something, on occasion I feel like I'm wasting my time writing and drawing. A "pearls before swine" epiphany emerges every now and again. You know…
In Actual Play
Participants: JSDiamond, Jared A. Sorensen, GreatWolf, Ron Edwards, joshua neff, Clay.

5/14/2001 hardcoremoose: System utilizing Director's Stance?!
I posted this over at RPGnet, but it really deserves to be here where the great minds can mull it over. There's a game spinning in my head for which…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: hardcoremoose, Ron Edwards, JSDiamond, Jared A. Sorensen, Clay, Doc Midnight.

5/14/2001 JSDiamond: Endless Dance
Ron Edwards mentioned a game called "Hero" from a long time ago and that got me to thinking about a game I 'designed' a long time ago but never finished.…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: JSDiamond.

5/13/2001 archangel_2: Scoobie Doo InSpectre
Well, I'm sure this has either already been thought up, or is too ignorant a suggestion to have brought up thus far, but here goes none-the-less. *s* I was checking…
In Memento-Mori Theatricks
Participants: archangel_2, Jared A. Sorensen, hardcoremoose, Jason L Blair.

5/13/2001 Jared A. Sorensen: Jeff Noon -- Cobralingus
Not really sure where to put this...but hell, I know Josh Neff will be interested, at the very least! http://www.codexbooks.co.uk/book.html Really interesting.
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Jared A. Sorensen, joshua neff, DonQuixote.

5/13/2001 greyorm: Some more definition insanity
In a recent message here, Ron, it seemed you were saying that the narrative game has far-reaching plots set-up in advance ala Tolkien and the simulationist game is more like…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: greyorm, Ron Edwards, james_west.

5/12/2001 Jared A. Sorensen: Convention bastards.
Well, due to my lateness in submitting my game, I'll be running Elfs at KublaCon on a Sunday morning. Feh. In the conversations between the con RPG organizer (a nice…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Jared A. Sorensen, Mytholder, Ron Edwards, GreatWolf, JSDiamond, Clinton R. Nixon, poppocabba, hardcoremoose, Dav, Blake Hutchins, james_west.

5/12/2001 Jared A. Sorensen: Playtesting Forum
Could be get a Playtesting forum for people to use? It'd be especially nice if individual threads could be coded to only allow certain members to read them (open vs.…
In Site Discussion
Participants: Jared A. Sorensen, Ron Edwards.

5/12/2001 Ian O'Rourke: Player Behaviour Dangers
I tend to agree with Ron (and whoever else), as I think GNS can be used to classify player behaviour, most people fall into one category in the main. I…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Ian O'Rourke, Logan, Ron Edwards, Zak Arntson, hardcoremoose, joshua neff, james_west, Gordon C. Landis.

5/12/2001 Zak Arntson: Web Publishing Model
I've been giving serious thought to doing online RPG publishing. Inspired by Adept Press and Memento-Mori, here's my current plan. I was wondering what y'all thought of it, especially those…
In Publishing
Participants: Zak Arntson, Ron Edwards, Dav, JSDiamond, Clay.

5/11/2001 james_west: friendlier G/N/S definitions
I've been thinking about a less confrontational set of G/N/S definitions: see what you think. Put this way, I think most people would call themselves Gamist ... note that by…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: james_west, Logan, Jared A. Sorensen, Gordon C. Landis, Zak Arntson, Ron Edwards, greyorm, joshua neff, Paul Czege, GreatWolf, Mike Holmes.

5/10/2001 Gordon C. Landis: "Story" thoughts
Great stuff here, everyone. I'm never sure I actually understand G/N/S, nor if it is even really a "good" analysis of RPGs in general, but it (and the discussions on…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Gordon C. Landis, james_west, Ron Edwards, joshua neff.

5/10/2001 Clinton R. Nixon: Psychological simulationism
In the Feng Shui thread, it was asked if any thought had been given to psychological simulationism in RPGs. My three examples to rip apart would be: The White Wolf…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Clinton R. Nixon, Ron Edwards, Jared A. Sorensen.

5/10/2001 greyorm: New posts indicators
I've been having problems for the last three days with the new posts indicators. Threads I have fully read are showing up with "new posts since last visit" even though…
In Site Discussion
Participants: greyorm, Clinton R. Nixon.

5/10/2001 james_west: theoretical game spaces (17k in images)
I'd not heard of the narrativist/gamist/simulationist axes before looking over this website a few days ago. However, I've looked over not only the material here but related material on other…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: james_west, Ron Edwards.

5/9/2001 Logan: Incorrect Assumptions
Some of our assumptions about the G/S/D and also G/N/S may be incorrect. For instance, Ron and I have thought that John Kim's 3-fold debate didn't go anywhere. Not true.…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Logan, james_west, Ron Edwards, greyorm.

5/9/2001 Ron Edwards: A proposed policy for all of us
Hey, I'm thinking about the inevitable day when someone shows up at the Forge and launches into an anti-G/N/S rant. I'm not talking about an honest inquiry, even if it's…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Ron Edwards, Clinton R. Nixon, greyorm, james_west.

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5/15/2001 Dav: Actual (reading?)
Okay, so I haven't actually played the game, but I was just sent a comp. copy of "Mummy: The Quirky Subtitle". I'm reading through this and at first was rather…
In Actual Play
Participants: Dav, joshua neff.

5/16/2001 james_west: strong vs weak narrativism
(I apologize in advance for any possible mangling of others' words or meanings.) I've seen a lot of apparently quite different definitions of narrativism in this forum. Upon reflection, however,…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: james_west, joshua neff, Ron Edwards, Blake Hutchins.

5/17/2001 Zak Arntson: Login not working
Whenever I click on the Login, and enter teh correct information, I get the regular forum screen but the "user not logged in" appears. I went and tested it a…
In Site Discussion
Participants: Zak Arntson, joshua neff, Ron Edwards, Dav, GreatWolf, Clay, Clinton R. Nixon.

5/17/2001 Blake Hutchins: Hero Wars Forum?
Hey all, Just picked up Hero Wars and am riding a wave of excitement after dissecting the mechanics. Issaries Press is an indie outfit, and as far as I can…
In Site Discussion
Participants: Blake Hutchins, Ron Edwards, Clinton R. Nixon, joshua neff.

5/17/2001 JSDiamond: GOLEM
hardcoremoose came up with a brilliant system-mechanic that I have altered somewhat for an rpg (tentatively) called "GOLEM" In it, players are robots that have 'awoken' within a behemoth factory…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: JSDiamond, Dav, hardcoremoose, Ron Edwards, GreatWolf, Clay, Zak Arntson, canisPRIME, Doc Midnight, John Wick.

5/18/2001 james_west: Why They Tanked
I'm going to boldly post a list of just about all the attempts at multiple-scenario games I've been in for the past three years, and why they tanked (in order…
In Actual Play
Participants: james_west, Zak Arntson, Mytholder.

5/18/2001 Dav: Gygax is still alive?
The man should be caned. RPGNet: Beginning around the early 1990s, the roleplaying world experienced a "movement," the nature and definition of which is still up for furious debate, characterized…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Dav, Ron Edwards, Clinton R. Nixon, joshua neff, Logan, Jared A. Sorensen, Zak Arntson, Gordon C. Landis, james_west, Mytholder, Paul Czege.

5/19/2001 Ron Edwards: So the Forge is back/Questions
Hi Brian, Welcome to the Forge, and please consider this post a do-over from events earlier today. I'd be glad to do some back-and-forth. As for the reviews stuff ...…
In Site Discussion
Participants: Ron Edwards, james_west, Blake Hutchins.

5/18/2001 Blake Hutchins: Getting started
Alright. Thanks to Clinton for putting up this forum. Since I asked for it, I'll get the ball rolling. One of the things that intrigues me about the design of…
In HeroQuest
Participants: Blake Hutchins, Ron Edwards, james_west, Clinton R. Nixon, Alai, contracycle.

5/19/2001 james_west: core rules freely downloadable
If anyone's interested in this game but doesn't have a copy, chapters 1-3 of Hero Wars are on issaries' web site, as well as everything important in chapter 4 as…
In HeroQuest
Participants: james_west, Ron Edwards.

5/19/2001 Jared A. Sorensen: Schism - questions & answers
On my email list, one poster had some questions about Schism. I figure it would be good to answer them here as well! How about giving us a quick overview…
In Memento-Mori Theatricks
Participants: Jared A. Sorensen, james_west, hardcoremoose, Clinton R. Nixon, gizem.

5/20/2001 archangel_2: Elfs Game Session
I FINALLY got a group to play Elfs!! Woo hoo!! Even better, they REALLY enjoyed it! We made up the characters, and then I took them through the Fire and…
In Adept Press
Participants: archangel_2, Clay, Ron Edwards.

5/20/2001 joshua neff: three-headed dog
over on rpg.net, someone posted a question, asking which game he should buy, "rune", "dying earth", or "pendragon"... & it just struck me: is this a great example of "gamist",…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: joshua neff, james_west, Paul Czege, Ron Edwards, Ian O'Rourke.

5/21/2001 Jason L Blair: No rest for the... restless
Well, I'm wrapping up Little Fears and it looks like it might not be out 'til GenCon. I'll know this week whether it's gonna be delayed. But anyhoo -- I…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Jason L Blair, Ron Edwards, james_west, hardcoremoose, poppocabba.

5/21/2001 Ron Edwards: All righty then
Hello everyone, I think we've successfully dissected G/N/S to current forum members' satisfaction. I'm seeing a lot of light-bulbs going on, and a lot of shared vocabulary being used constructively.…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Ron Edwards, joshua neff, james_west, Dav, Gordon C. Landis, hardcoremoose, Logan, Blake Hutchins, JSDiamond, Ian O'Rourke.

5/21/2001 Jared A. Sorensen: All Elfs must be Eaten
This is from a post by Hardcoremoose in the RPG.net "art of game design" forum. It's really funny and Moosey has yet to re-post it, so... Take 'All Flesh Must…
In Adept Press
Participants: Jared A. Sorensen, james_west, Ron Edwards, hardcoremoose, Blake Hutchins, Dav, unodiablo.

5/21/2001 JSDiamond: Publishing pencil & paper games on CDs
This is more of a thread grown out of my answer in the New Distribution thread in another forum. It seems to fit here. Jeff Diamond once…
In Publishing
Participants: JSDiamond, james_west, Dav, Ron Edwards, Nathan, Clay.

5/21/2001 Clinton R. Nixon: Rune - the analysis
I managed to pick up Atlas Games' Rune this weekend and am about half-way through it. So far, I think it's a masterpiece, but I was biased going in. It's…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Clinton R. Nixon, Jared A. Sorensen, hardcoremoose, Mike Holmes, Ian O'Rourke, Valamir.

5/21/2001 Zak Arntson: RPG System for Kids
I take in a 7 and 10 year old every few weekends, and try to get some roleplaying into them. Not only is it fun to play with kids, but…
In Actual Play
Participants: Zak Arntson, james_west, Ron Edwards, greyorm, GreatWolf.

5/21/2001 Jared A. Sorensen: Platforms
I've been tinkering with a game called Platforms. It's "the 2-dimensional game for 3-dimensional people" and is supposed to capture the feel of a character-based, side-scrolling video-game (ie: Super Mario…
In Memento-Mori Theatricks
Participants: Jared A. Sorensen, Ron Edwards, Zak Arntson, hardcoremoose, james_west.

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