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Author Topic: Sorcerer: an unofficial Rulings collection  (Read 5238 times)
Ron Edwards
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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2004, 11:17:25 AM »

Hello,

I love the whole page and the whole idea, so please don't read the following as disapproval.

What does concern me is that my and others' words are being used without credit. I recognize that the whole idea of a Wiki challenges the notion of single authorship, but the fact remains that I'm basically being ... well, quoted, and when I'm quoted, I want people to know it's me.

Any solution?

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Doyce
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2004, 12:12:24 PM »

There's a couple spots in the wiki where the text is pretty much a straight quote (from you or Clinton or whomever), and in those instances I made a point of attributing it.  In the cases where that's clearly the case, I can do that consistently.

The problem I ran/run into was when I was taking a sentence from post 1, a sentence from post 2, a paragraph from post three, and another sentence from post 4 and re-editing it into a single-voice thing from four different authors.  How to attribute it?

In a sense, it's easy to say in the footer 'a lot of this = Ron's words', but then some of it isn't, and some of it's my reinterpretation of those words, and that then lends unfair weight to stuff that doesn't deserve it.

The easiest thing I can think of in those instances is to create a link at the bottom of such an entry that would look like this: source material here.  Would that work?  (Certainly, it would *be* work, but I do want to give credit to the folks that generated the discussion to begin with.)

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An example of the last suggestion would be what I did here: http://random.average-bear.com/pmwiki.php/Sorcerer/BonusDice
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Ron Edwards
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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2004, 12:20:25 PM »

Yeah, I like that. Makes sense, and doesn't distract from the basic utility of the site entries themselves.

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Ron
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Doyce
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2004, 12:48:26 PM »

Cool, I'll do that.
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Doyce Testerman ~ http://random.average-bear.com
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2004, 07:24:59 PM »

Okay, the citations are up for everything I could find. (There's perhaps less than a half-dozen that are too paraphrased or concatenated to cite and about the same number that I was just writing as a note to myself.  Other than that, we're good.)
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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2004, 07:50:22 PM »

For the record, I don't care about credit. Quote my posts in whole or in part all you like, as long as the info is correct, I'm happy. Feel free to not worry your pretty little head about acknowledging me. ^_^

but yeah, that link thing seems simplest, even if it means you have to leave two or three links for entries where you had to glean from multiple threads.
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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2004, 10:56:42 PM »

Lots of recent wikifiable posts... you keeping up okay? ^_^
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Doyce
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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2004, 06:46:39 AM »

Quote from: Nev the Deranged
Lots of recent wikifiable posts... you keeping up okay? ^_^


I... think I am, but if you've got any that you want to specifically draw my attention to, post them up here to PM links to me and I'll definitely double check.
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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2004, 08:37:42 AM »

Just a note for folks that use news aggregators: I've added an RSS feed for the Sorcerer rules collection that displays changes and updates to the site.  http://random.average-bear.com/Sorcerer/RecentChanges?action=rss
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2004, 12:42:30 PM »

Quote from: Doyce

I... think I am, but if you've got any that you want to specifically draw my attention to, post them up here to PM links to me and I'll definitely double check.


The wiki page is one hell of a resource. I know it's first and foremost a rules and errata collection, but I think stuff like how you play it and especially how you prepare play should be there as well. I am thinking in particular about the Art-Deco "how-to" campaign. I know it's old, but judging from the response it got at the time and my own reading of it, it would be really nice with a digested version. Any newcomer to Sorcerer would benefit hugely from the insights it provides.

But that's just me, I don't know what you guys say?

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