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Started by Judd, December 06, 2005, 01:13:37 AM
Quote from: Clinton R. Nixon on November 21, 2005, 03:49:04 PM Hardly any conflict was over "can I do this?" Most was over "what happens when I do this?"
Quote from: Mike Holmes on December 06, 2005, 02:23:06 PMNote the use of the term "cool." That's shorthand code for, "Do you agree that this is a good stake for the contest, or not?" Everyone gets that.
Quote from: Paka on December 06, 2005, 02:31:07 PMThere is a real problem with some gamers who have to break the habit of trying to pick the lock and opening the door when failing to do so stalls the adventure. The stakes aren't, do I pick the lock and open the door, but do I do so before the guards come (is that from the Burning Wheel Revised book. I feel like I took it from somewhere?).
Quote from: Thor Olavsrud on December 06, 2005, 02:58:43 PM He'd gotten everything he wanted. Until she stabbed him in the gut and killed him. Payback's a bitch.
Quote from: Thor Olavsrud on December 06, 2005, 02:58:43 PMI told Dro that my Stakes were that if he failed the roll, I would invoke the Enmity Clause and Selene would see his character as a disgusting, dirty old man, and would be utterly resistant to a marriage.
Quote from: Joshua BishopRoby on December 06, 2005, 02:58:00 PMMike, a direct hit first try is great, and making that happen more often is a good thing. However, it doesn't always happen. I'd submit that when the stakes aren't a direct hit the first try, the players making the stakes a direct hit (through whatever means) is what teaches them how to make the direct hit the next time. In terms of my five step thing, once you get going, I doubt there would be much reframing of stakes; it's just a safety net that's there in case there is some disagreement. Make sense, or way off base, in your experience?
Quote from: Mike Holmes on December 06, 2005, 04:35:50 PMThe skill that I'm seeing, per se, is in suggesting things that are ironed out in the fewest number of exchanges.
Quote from: Jon Hastings on December 06, 2005, 05:10:33 PMBut when I applied these stake-setting methods while playing PTA with a different group, the results were not so hot: lots of contention over the precise wording of stakes and lots of discussion about wether the stakes put too much on the line.
Quote from: Jon Hastings on December 06, 2005, 05:45:52 PMI guess what I am trying to get at with my question to Mike is whether or not good stake setting skills are universal or whether or not you have to re-learn your stake setting skills every time you start playing with a new group.