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JustinB
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« on: September 05, 2007, 06:34:14 AM »

Does anyone know how to go about getting an ISBN? I remember seeing something about this a while back, but I'm having trouble finding it...
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Eero Tuovinen
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2007, 06:51:23 AM »

Depends on where you're publishing. In Finland, for example, in good socialist tradition the distribution of ISBN numbers is a responsibility of the state as manifested in the University of Helsinki and the national library therein. So you just basically send them an e-mail telling them about your publishing plans, and they'll assign you with either a block or individual ISBN numbers according to need. Later you send them a copy of the book for their records.

In US, on the other hand, the same responsibilities are assigned to a corporation, the name of which escapes me at the moment. Bowker or something like that? As I understand it, you'll just contact said corporation, pay them a sum of money, and they assign you with a block of ISBN numbers. They don't sell single numbers, I understand, so if you only want one you have to buy it from the second-hand market. Which practice is frowned upon, as it tends to mess up the ISBN registry when people don't update it accordingly.

In theory you'll have to get your ISBN numbers from the country where you're publishing. Of course the numbers themselves are internationally valid. So if I ever publish in English, I'll probably still do the publishing "in Finland", even if most of the stock would be sold overseas.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2007, 07:11:38 AM »

Eero is right. Bowker handles these things in the U.S., and the application can be found at www.isbn.org. You can only buy them in bulk. $275 for 10, last time I checked.

Note that you only need an ISBN if you're going through the traditional three-tier system. If you sell your books yourself, use a POD (like lulu.com), or sell via an independent fulfillment place (like IPR, who then also sells to physical game stores), you don't need an ISBN.
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JustinB
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2007, 10:33:57 AM »

Thanks! The only reason I'm looking into this is that Barnes and Noble has expressed limited interest in carrying the game, but can't if there's no ISBN.
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Pelgrane
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2007, 03:04:40 AM »

Eero is right. Bowker handles these things in the U.S., and the application can be found at www.isbn.org. You can only buy them in bulk. $275 for 10, last time I checked.

Note that you only need an ISBN if you're going through the traditional three-tier system. If you sell your books yourself, use a POD (like lulu.com), or sell via an independent fulfillment place (like IPR, who then also sells to physical game stores), you don't need an ISBN.

If your books end up in a store, it's best to have an ISBN, and that includes sales via IPR. An ISBN also enables stores to find out how to get hold of your book using their standard searches.
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TwoCrows
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2007, 07:26:23 AM »

Note that you only need an ISBN if you're going through the traditional three-tier system. If you sell your books yourself, use a POD (like lulu.com), or sell via an independent fulfillment place (like IPR, who then also sells to physical game stores), you don't need an ISBN.
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lighthouse
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2007, 09:36:38 AM »

Depends on where you're publishing. In Finland, for example, in good socialist tradition the distribution of ISBN numbers is a responsibility of the state.

I think this has much more to do with the classic continental system than with socialism. Smiley
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Eero Tuovinen
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2007, 09:52:37 AM »

And I think that perhaps Eero was joking about the wide-spread perception of Finland as a socialist democracy Wink
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2007, 11:51:36 AM »

And I think that perhaps Eero was joking about the wide-spread perception of Finland as a socialist democracy Wink

I think a guy called Molotov made a similar mistake... Wink
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