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7/22/2001 Clay: Well armed, large breasted women put people off games?
I'm interested in taking up this thread about how women are depicted in gaming. In particular, I want to assert that it may at times be appropriate to show some…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Clay, Damocles, greyorm, James V. West, Jack Spencer Jr, Uncle Dark, contracycle, Fletch, GreatWolf, joshua neff, Ron Edwards, Dav, hardcoremoose, Blake Hutchins, Logan, Supplanter, Cameron, james_west, Levekius, gizem, John Wick.

7/22/2001 Tim C Koppang: Player Induced Rewards
After reading a couple of posts, I was thinking about a mechanic that would allow players to divvy out rewards themselves instead of giving the GM all of the control.…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Tim C Koppang, James V. West, Le Joueur.

7/21/2001 Paul Czege: consolidating eight
Hey Jared, You gotta consolidate the versions of Eight on your site. The link from your main page takes you to the old version: http://www.memento-mori.com/eight/ And from within that there's…
In Memento-Mori Theatricks
Participants: Paul Czege, joshua neff.

7/21/2001 GreatWolf: Little Fear in action
Last night I actually got to do some gaming! Woo-hoo! And it wasn't playtesting anything of my own. Instead, I ran Little Fears for part of my group (the rest…
In Actual Play
Participants: GreatWolf, joshua neff, Knight, Laura Bishop, Ron Edwards, trelliz, Balbinus, Epoch, Mike Holmes, Jason L Blair, Tyrant.

7/20/2001 kwill: deja vu all over again?
browsing the WP site I noticed that the Deja Vu game concept wasn't all uploaded -- you're obviously working on a variety of other projects at the mo, but can…
In Wicked Press
Participants: kwill, John Wick.

7/20/2001 rpghost: RPG Industry - Insider private forums!
RPG Host Networks is proud to announce it's newest community service: http://www.RPGIndustry.com This new site was created as a private industry only forum to help improve communication between your peers.…
In Publishing
Participants: rpghost.

7/20/2001 hardcoremoose: Reward Systems, or Making Your Players Behave
I've discussed this topic elsewhere and it came back to me full force while reading through the "silliness" thread in the GNS forum. Basically I propose that the most important…
In RPG Theory
Participants: hardcoremoose, James V. West, Ron Edwards, Jack Spencer Jr, wyrdlyng, Jared A. Sorensen, kwill, John Wick, Damocles, james_west, Doc Midnight, Tim C Koppang.

7/20/2001 Stefan Drawert: Examples Of Extended Contest, Anyboby?
Hello to everybody, recently discovered this forum about Hero Wars, which I'm gonna start gaming next week! Still I feel somehow uneasy about extended contest when it comes to relate…
In HeroQuest
Participants: Stefan Drawert, mikeryan, Uncle Dark.

7/18/2001 Jared A. Sorensen: Ad-supported RPG's, Media Models & Magazines
I had a crazy idea for octaNe...because I really wanna see it published (and so do quite a few people out there, sheesh!). A thick, glossy magazine format. Full-color...hell, with…
In Publishing
Participants: Jared A. Sorensen, JSDiamond, Misguided Games, Paul Czege, Blake Hutchins, Clinton R. Nixon.

7/18/2001 jburneko: PC/NPC Emotional Bonding
Hello, Ron and I have been going back and forth about characters emotional motivations. In his last email he suggested I open up part of the discussion to the rest…
In Actual Play
Participants: jburneko, James Holloway, joshua neff, Paul Czege, Blake Hutchins, mikeryan, greyorm, Le Joueur, gentrification, John Wick, Cameron, Mike Holmes, GreatWolf, Emily Care, Knight, Uncle Dark, Mytholder, contracycle.

7/18/2001 Ron Edwards: The damn book
Well, the book is not going to be available until GenCon. You have no idea how agonizing this is. When it's over, I'll write a little "Why books don't come…
In Adept Press
Participants: Ron Edwards, Jason L Blair, Uncle Dark, wyrdlyng, Jared A. Sorensen.

7/18/2001 Dav: the Gamble and the Stake
I wanted to bring this theory up to the collective to see what happens with it. on and I were talking briefly about the stakes in games. My position is…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Dav, Ron Edwards, John Wick, Jared A. Sorensen, hardcoremoose, James V. West, Le Joueur.

7/18/2001 Jason L Blair: Now Available from Wizard's Attic
It appears Wizard's Attic got the books in ahead of schedule and Little Fears is now available for purchase via their site. To order your copy, click…
In Key 20 Publishing
Participants: Jason L Blair, Mike Holmes, MARS, Mytholder.

7/18/2001 Paul Czege: I think my girlfriend is a...simulationist
My girlfriend is playing in Scott's Sorcerer scenario, which had its second session on Monday. It's basically her first experience with roleplaying. She played Soap previously, but that's a GM-less…
In Actual Play
Participants: Paul Czege, Uncle Dark, Supplanter, GreatWolf, Ron Edwards, hardcoremoose.

7/17/2001 Valamir: Narrativism: What's beyond the sillyness
I've been poking around and adding to my collection of games owned and played those purported to be narrativist, and noticed a reoccuring theme...narrativist games seem to have a tendency…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Valamir, Ron Edwards, jburneko, John Wick, joshua neff, Mytholder, gentrification, Jared A. Sorensen, GreatWolf.

7/17/2001 John Wick: Why Reviews Are Next to Useless
Check this out. Two reviews of MISTS OF AVALON (I won't tell you what I thought of it because it's really not that important, is it?) http://www.culturevulture.net/Television/MistsofAvalon.htm and http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/07/13/DD230637.DTL Go…
In Review Discussion
Participants: John Wick, Jared A. Sorensen, Valamir, Damocles, JSDiamond, Jack Spencer Jr, greyorm, Gordon C. Landis, Supplanter, Theory of X, Ian O'Rourke, Clinton R. Nixon, A.Neill, peteramthor, joshua neff, Michael T. Richter.

7/17/2001 Dav: Kingdoms
Okay, so the whole evil thing banked left and screamed off into insanity, we can leave it there I am thinking. But looking at Kingdoms, you have a 16-page game…
In Wicked Press
Participants: Dav, John Wick.

7/17/2001 RobMuadib: Shared Creationism - The Next Step for Simulationist?
Hey I was wondering what the "indie" guys here at the Forge think of "Shared Creationism" as the next evolutionary step for Simulationist game play. In most simulationist games there…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: RobMuadib, james_west, FilthySuperman, Emily Care.

7/16/2001 kwill: website down?
is it just me or is the mm website inaccessible? I can connect to the frontpage using gloomcookie.com, but can go no further == The following error was encountered: Unable…
In Memento-Mori Theatricks
Participants: kwill, Jared A. Sorensen.

7/16/2001 Jack Spencer Jr: premise
The education of Jack continues.... Now I'm trying to get a handle on this thing called a premise and i know it's fairly simple, something like "It's what the game…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, Ron Edwards, James Holloway, Blake Hutchins, jburneko, joshua neff, contracycle, James V. West, Supplanter, Mike Holmes, Valamir.

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7/23/2001 Jack Spencer Jr: Gaming Library
Well, Gaming Outpost's Gaming Library is now up and running. I'm not sure what the general feeling is about GO around here these days but I do see many of…
In Publishing
Participants: Jack Spencer Jr.

7/23/2001 Jack Spencer Jr: "Not enough rules"
Over on the Elfs board I mention playing briefly w/ the wife. (The game. The game.) AFterwards I asked for her impressions and she said it could be fun but…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, joshua neff, jburneko, GreatWolf, Ron Edwards.

7/23/2001 Paul Czege: Sigil
Hey James V...everyone, I've been thinking seriously about running a scenario using Sigil. I even bought wood cubes at a craft store over the weekend. But I'm worried about play-balance…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Paul Czege, James V. West.

7/23/2001 Jason L Blair: New LF Website: Ideas?
The new LF website will be going up soon (Target date: Monday, July 30th). My question to you is: what do you want on it? Not necessarily design-wise (though, feel…
In Key 20 Publishing
Participants: Jason L Blair, Dav, MARS, scothemaudlin, Laura Bishop, archangel_2, Deadstop.

7/23/2001 Jared A. Sorensen: dogma '01
You guys are probably familiar with the dogma movement of cinema. An agreement to shoot with natural light, use only found objects and locations, to not use music unless it's…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Jared A. Sorensen, Mytholder, Damocles, James V. West, Max Tangent, Ron Edwards, gizem.

7/23/2001 Epoch: "Sophisticated" Styles
A while ago, I suggested that I'd try to characterize my own playing style in terms of the GNS. I don't know if there's interest, but, with Le Jouer (apologies,…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Epoch, Ron Edwards, James Holloway, Mytholder.

7/24/2001 MARS: Props
While I was at the store, I noticed school supplies for sale. But out of those things one thing caught my eye. A pack of scobby doo pencils. I thought…
In Key 20 Publishing
Participants: MARS, Cyanide, Jason L Blair, Mytholder, Corvus Corax, Jared A. Sorensen, trelliz, Tyrant, Ben Morgan, Clinically Insane, Petter Sandelin, Don Lag, Fabrice G., Tim Denee, ^mortis^, Trav.

7/24/2001 contracycle: story and plotting
Hi folks. Maybe this is a well-worn rut, but I'd like to throw it oiut and see if anyone can offer any advice. I have immense trouble with story design;…
In Actual Play
Participants: contracycle, Max Tangent, joshua neff, Ron Edwards, Gordon C. Landis, Clay, Blake Hutchins.

7/24/2001 Jack Spencer Jr: Guess who's finally read the FAQ
I'll probably have to read it a few times before I post anything actually worthwhile, but anyway.... Part of the problems I've always had with any of the three-fold models…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, Le Joueur, Ron Edwards, Epoch, Supplanter, GreatWolf, Valamir, Logan.

7/24/2001 Ron Edwards: War story (probably)
Yesterday I received a friendly message from someone, asking me for any "advice" on an attached file called ACPexe1_7.exe. I wrote back asking for some context - who he was,…
In Adept Press
Participants: Ron Edwards, Jared A. Sorensen, GreatWolf, Supplanter, Clay, Paul Czege, Gordon C. Landis, joshua neff, Mytholder, greyorm, Jack Spencer Jr, Ian O'Rourke, Mike Holmes, Ben Morgan, FilthySuperman.

7/24/2001 jburneko: Help With A Reply
Hello, This is a bit of a personal matter and I'm not sure how "apropriate" bringing this to the public forum is but I'm affraid I'm at a bit of…
In Actual Play
Participants: jburneko, joshua neff, Zak Arntson, Ron Edwards, Jack Spencer Jr, Supplanter, james_west, gentrification, Damocles, Epoch, Peter, Knight, Ian O'Rourke.

7/24/2001 MARS: After reading the book
I must say I thought it was great. My only problem was, I wanted more of everything. Other things I would like to see added on the site or in…
In Key 20 Publishing
Participants: MARS, GreatWolf, Balazs, Cyanide, FilthySuperman, Jason L Blair, Darken, Shawn.

7/25/2001 joshua neff: new directions
What are the assumptions about RPGs? What traditions have we become bound by? & how can we break these assumptions & rethink RPGs? Off the top of my head: *…
In RPG Theory
Participants: joshua neff, James Holloway, Dav, Gordon C. Landis, GreatWolf, Uncle Dark, Jack Spencer Jr, Damocles, jburneko, james_west, Mike Holmes, Valamir, Ron Edwards, Blake Hutchins, contracycle.

7/25/2001 Paul Czege: a postcard from visiting the Forge Library
Hey everyone, Had a lot of fun on my recent trip to the Forge Library. I saw Rob Lang's ICAR and I really like the five stats: Battle, Meat, Shift,…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Paul Czege, Ron Edwards.

7/25/2001 tldenmark: GNS a sign of sophistication and maturity...
Eventually any new human endeavour that becomes established starts to spawn it's "philosophers". These people come in and try to explain things and put things in a box, and most…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: tldenmark, contracycle, Gordon C. Landis, Ron Edwards, Knight, Mike Holmes, A.Neill, greyorm, TrizzlWizzl, Jared A. Sorensen, Laurel.

7/25/2001 Mytholder: Hideous abuse of the Forge denizens
Hi all, I'm not going to GenCon (awww) but some friends of mine are (yippee). I'm fairly sure they haven't prebooked into any games, and I know from my experiences…
In Actual Play
Participants: Mytholder, Jared A. Sorensen, Ron Edwards, joshua neff, Dav, unodiablo, Jason L Blair, Clinton R. Nixon, greyorm, Clay.

7/26/2001 John Wick: Not a CAT: RPG Link, but close...
http://www.mycathatesyou.com/ Enjoy.
In Wicked Press
Participants: John Wick, Jared A. Sorensen.

7/26/2001 Ferry Bazelmans: Curiosity killed the freckled fritzhopper
I was wondering who out there has played Soap and what their experiences were. Ron wrote a very insightful review here that resulted in me making the winning mechanic optional…
In Actual Play
Participants: Ferry Bazelmans, james_west.

7/26/2001 Jack Spencer Jr: Virus Alert!!
I don't know if this is the right forum for this, but, eh, close enough. If you've recently received an email from me pblock eeville@dreamscape.com asking for help with the…
In Site Discussion
Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, Clinton R. Nixon, Epoch, Ron Edwards, greyorm.

7/26/2001 Jason L Blair: RPGNet/Mystic Ages Chat Tonight!
Hey all, I'll be at irc.magicstar.net #GuestChat at 9pm EST (10pm CST) if you want to stop by and ask questions about Little Fears, my chinchilla, or future games by…
In Key 20 Publishing
Participants: Jason L Blair.

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