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11/13/2002 aryus: Free DTP Software (Pageplus 5)
Just in case anyone is interested, you can get a free copy of Serif's PagePlus 5 Desktop Publishing software at http://freeserifsoftware.com They also offer some of their other programs for…
In Publishing
Participants: aryus, Clinton R. Nixon.

11/13/2002 Wormwood: Clandestine: Organs of Conpiracy
I introduced this game here. One of the major elements in the game involves constructing bodies using a pool of points. At different levels these bodies are conspiracies, small bands…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Wormwood, Mike Holmes, Walt Freitag.

11/13/2002 Seth L. Blumberg: Illusionism and GNS
Ron wants this taken to a separate thread; I comply. (Might could be that some splitting needs to be done on the parent thread.) In this thread, Ralph (Valamir) said:…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Seth L. Blumberg, Valamir, jburneko, Mike Holmes, Marco, Walt Freitag, Ron Edwards, Christoffer Lernö, contracycle.

11/13/2002 Christoffer Lernö: Profiling In Reverse
I don't know if this is interesting to the rest of you, but... well reading the profiling I felt like asking the similare questions but kinda the other way around:…
In Actual Play
Participants: Christoffer Lernö, jburneko, Paul Czege, Clinton R. Nixon, J. Backman, lumpley, Gordon C. Landis, Michael S. Miller, ethan_greer, Enoch, quozl, Tim C Koppang, Ron Edwards, wyrdlyng, Demonspahn, C. Edwards, jrients, GreatWolf, Walt Freitag, Daredevil, Tim Denee, Bob McNamee, Jack Spencer Jr, xiombarg, Andrew Martin, greyorm, Le Joueur, Ben Morgan, joshua neff, Jake Norwood, talysman, Stuart DJ Purdie, RobMuadib, Kester Pelagius, contracycle, Alan, Maurice Forrester, Mark Withers, johnmarron, GB Steve, Ace, Jonathan Walton.

11/13/2002 Jon H: Production value (split from Mainstream)
[quote="Paul Czege"]Hey Jon, Fantastic post. Having never seen a pg45 style store, it's strange and exciting to see you write of the nuts and bolts from firsthand. Seeing description of…
In Publishing
Participants: Jon H, Ron Edwards.

11/13/2002 Wormwood: The Importance of Play
One of the matters I've seen fairly ignored in most RPG theory discussions is the presence or lack of value in the play aspects of RPGs. In particular I mean…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Wormwood, Ron Edwards, Mike Holmes, MK Snyder, Kester Pelagius, Eric J., contracycle, lumpley.

11/13/2002 Wulf: Donjon Ability question
While working on my bestiary, I hit a snag. When you hit a Barguest, as well as dealing damage to IT, it shocks you through your weapon and damages YOU...…
In CRN Games
Participants: Wulf, catenwolde, Valamir, Clinton R. Nixon, Mike Holmes.

11/13/2002 Shreyas Sampat: Marionettes: Morality?
Okay, a new idea for Marionettes: Marionettes is a game about morality, as the Puppets and Puppeteers embody them. The Puppets are governed by Principles, which are static rules by…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Shreyas Sampat.

11/12/2002 MK Snyder: Examples of GNS in application w/respect to play
As this is a forum for game designers, there are many threads applying GNS to game design. I think it's not unreasonable to note that this creates some confusion, because…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: MK Snyder, Ron Edwards, Bob McNamee, Mike Holmes, M. J. Young.

11/12/2002 Jared A. Sorensen: superhero gaming without superhero characters
And I'm not talking about The Code. In a nutshell, the player characters are people in a city where superheroes exist. Think of it like the series "Marvels" where the…
In Memento-Mori Theatricks
Participants: Jared A. Sorensen, Le Joueur, Ron Edwards, Emily Care, Tim C Koppang, Derek Devlin, Clinton R. Nixon, gospog, Maurice Forrester, xiombarg.

11/12/2002 toli: Barsoom, John Carter of Mars--alternate TROS worlds
Ever once and a while, some one seems notes that TROS rules would be good for a certain setting or that a particular movie has a TROS feel. I've always…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: toli, spunky, Durgil, Ron Edwards, Jake Norwood, Blake Hutchins, Sneaky Git.

11/12/2002 Ron Edwards: Mainstream: a revision
Hello, I'd like to address the issue of mainstream vs. alternative content in role-playing games. My views are essentially the same as those expressed by the proprietors of Page 45,…
In Publishing
Participants: Ron Edwards, Emily Care, Jonathan Walton, Le Joueur, PeterAdkison, MK Snyder, Tundra, xiombarg, jburneko, Seth L. Blumberg, Pramas, Jack Spencer Jr, Jon H, Paul Czege, James Holloway, mearls, talysman, Eric J., greyorm, joshua neff, Christopher Kubasik, C. Edwards, quozl, Walt Freitag, b_bankhead.

11/12/2002 Ron Edwards: Second Trollbabe story's up
Hi there, Right on schedule, the second Trollbabe story has begun at the Adept Press site. This one's called "The Green Goo Feud" and it's illustrated by Rod Anderson. Thoughts…
In Adept Press
Participants: Ron Edwards, Seth L. Blumberg, lumpley, Valamir, xiombarg, Paul Czege, Rod Anderson.

11/12/2002 Jonathan Walton: Storypunk: The Troupe
If you are not familar with the previous threads about this game, don't worry. You don't need to be. Still, if you're interested, searching for "storypunk" will turn up everything…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Jonathan Walton, J. Backman, szilard, Shreyas Sampat.

11/11/2002 GreatWolf: Lord of the Rings thread on Adept Press forum
There is a discussion of Lord of the Rings going on over on the Adept Press forum. You can find the thread here. I wanted to link to it because…
In Dark Omen Games
Participants: GreatWolf, Mike Holmes, Jason L Blair.

11/11/2002 Valamir: Winged Hussars
For those interested in seeing what the really cool Winged Hussar armor from the 17th century looked like check the link below. If you have an extra 3 grand lieing…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Valamir, Irmo, Wolfen, Jake Norwood, Lyrax.

11/11/2002 Kenway: MyGame: "Advancement via Notoriety and PC-summoned foes
"Advancement via Notoriety and PC-summoned foes" From the similarly-named thread in the rpg theory forum, here are 2 ideas for a new system. Setting, characters, etc. still need to be…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Kenway, Anthony, talysman, Bob McNamee, Rich Forest.

11/11/2002 Ron Edwards: Illusionism: a new look and a new approach
Hello, I decided to write a piece on Illusionist play from the ground up. Any material preceding this one may be considered a past influence, and I'm putting this up…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Ron Edwards, jburneko, Bob McNamee, Paganini, M. J. Young, contracycle, Marco, Mike Holmes, Walt Freitag, Seth L. Blumberg, MK Snyder, Mytholder, Christoffer Lernö, Valamir.

11/11/2002 Paganini: whoa there
<empty post> Argh.
In RPG Theory
Participants: Paganini, lumpley, Ron Edwards.

11/11/2002 James V. West: The Pool--hardcore
Let the beatings begin. Here is the hardcore version of The Pool. Most everything is restored to its original form, with some differences. I've read it over and over but…
In Random Order Creations
Participants: James V. West, Bob McNamee, J. Backman, Paganini, Mark Withers, xiombarg, Ron Edwards, Zoetrope10.

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11/13/2002 GreatWolf: The Forever Lost
Here's another session that I ran. Again, the original thread is here. =============================================== I also ran Alyria again for someone else. Two people who were coming to Rune night (Jason…
In Dark Omen Games
Participants: GreatWolf.

11/13/2002 Demonspahn: Aware; First Playtest and Post Session Musings (LONG)
First off, I want to say thanks to Chris Edwards and Christoffer Lerno (Pale Fire) for helping me out with this game. Chris played the infamous Colonel Horatio Bugger (the…
In Actual Play
Participants: Demonspahn, C. Edwards.

11/13/2002 Walt Freitag: Reality in flux: illusionism or not?
On this thread Marco wrote: I see Illusionism as a practice of creating an illusion of perfectly logical non-story driven world, when, in fact, the reality is in flux as…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Walt Freitag, Marco, Valamir, Ron Edwards, Christoffer Lernö.

11/13/2002 Stephen: Yet ANOTHER sorcery variation....
One idea I had for a possible direction for the development of sorcerers in TROS runs as follows: The aging effect of magic comes, so it's been explained, from the…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Stephen, Wolfen, Spartan.

11/12/2002 Emily Care: Origins 2001 game
[quote="GreatWolf"]And Origins 2001 was going fine until cumulative fatigue caught up with us. :-)[/quote] Tell, tell! What happened? --Emily Care
In Dark Omen Games
Participants: Emily Care, GreatWolf, Valamir, Mike Holmes, Shreyas Sampat, Jason L Blair.

11/13/2002 Kester Pelagius: "RPG/GNS Encyclopedia Draft 4a"
This is a continuation of a discussion started here. Feedback is being actively sought to help develop this entry. Any and all questions are welcome, as are suggestions for sub-entries,…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Kester Pelagius, Seth L. Blumberg, Ron Edwards.

11/13/2002 Wolfen: You're dead. But you get to choose HOW.
I was playing with the Combat simulator today on lunch because I could not get online, and I was doing my damnedest to defeat a Gol Captain one on one,…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Wolfen, Stephen, Brian Leybourne, Jake Norwood, Mokkurkalfe, Mike Holmes, Psychopompous, spunky.

11/14/2002 Jack Spencer Jr: "D&D fantasy" What is it?
[quote="Ron Edwards"]I consider "D&D fantasy" to be a thing-in-itself with no direct parallel in fiction that's not gaming-derived. In other words, D&D fantasy is not high fantasy, epic fantasy, Tolkien-inspired,…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, Evan Waters, Eric J., greyorm, talysman, Ian Cooper, Valamir, Ron Edwards, ethan_greer, Mike Holmes, jrients, Walt Freitag, Matt Wilson, Seth L. Blumberg, contracycle.

11/14/2002 bluegargantua: Sorcerer and the Dicecapades
Greetings, I'm working up a Sorcerer adventure to run as a one-shot in the next couple of weeks and I'm trying to head off a potential administrative problem: So as…
In Actual Play
Participants: bluegargantua, Ron Edwards, Mike Holmes, Dotan Dimet.

11/14/2002 rafael: Dread: The Second Coming
This is going to be a weekend of seconds for Dread. This is the second month that it's been in print, I just sold out of my first print run…
In Publishing
Participants: rafael, S.Lonergan, Demonspahn, xiombarg.

11/15/2002 Jared A. Sorensen: Jesus Christ! Another kick-ass exploitation film site!
http://www.teleport-city.com/movies/reviews/action/ This one is goooooooooooooood.
In Memento-Mori Theatricks
Participants: Jared A. Sorensen, hardcoremoose, unodiablo.

11/15/2002 Jason L Blair: I played octaNe!
The name of the session was "Satan's Cheerleaders"--In Go-Go-Vision! The two characters were Zeke, a Helljack cowboy/samurai whose face was always partially in shadow, and Sha'Nay, a Bad-Ass Mofo with…
In Actual Play
Participants: Jason L Blair, Mike Holmes, Valamir, Jared A. Sorensen, wyrdlyng.

11/15/2002 Le Joueur: Um...Magic: the Gathering?
Simple request (for a difficult answer): Can someone explain to me why Magic: the Gathering isn't a product like Ron's discussing over in Mainstream: the Revision. It is arguably a…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Le Joueur, Mark Withers, Jared A. Sorensen, Ron Edwards, Jonathan Walton.

11/15/2002 Clinton R. Nixon: S&S: The Sunless Citadel & Less than Zero
My Sorcerer and Sword campaign ("Under the Blood Sun," a post-apocalyptic crypto-psychedelic game) is still going, even though I haven't been posting about it. The last two sessions were great,…
In Actual Play
Participants: Clinton R. Nixon, Ron Edwards, b_bankhead.

11/15/2002 Tony Irwin: Theme Chaser: first game
Tried a first play test of Theme Chaser last night. Its a story telling game but I've tried to just retell the bare bones of it so you can see…
In Actual Play
Participants: Tony Irwin, Mike Holmes.

11/15/2002 Tony Irwin: Theme Chaser: Rolling Dice
Actually I suppose this isn't really an issue about rolling dice, more of identifying with characters. There came a point in our playtest last night (while fighting the fire spiders)…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Tony Irwin, thoth, Le Joueur, Jonathan Walton, Mike Holmes, Matt Wilson.

11/15/2002 unodiablo: Anyone know Colin The Riot?!?
Sorry to post this, don't know if it's proper for the forum... I've been trying to get in touch with Colin about doing artwork for Dead Meat. His e-mail addy…
In Connections
Participants: unodiablo.

11/15/2002 Ron Edwards: Actual play in the stores
Hello, This thread can be considered a partner to my Mainstream: a revision. Unlike that thread, though, here, I'm really talking about the game stores and what goes on in…
In Actual Play
Participants: Ron Edwards, Christopher Kubasik, bluegargantua, jburneko, Valamir, jrients, b_bankhead, wyrdlyng, UnSub, Maurice Forrester, hyphz, xiombarg, ADGConscience, Jack Spencer Jr, James Holloway.

11/15/2002 greyorm: The Store
Over in Mainstream: a revision, Ron says specifically it isn't about the store. I'm in some disagreement about this...after reading everything being said about turning things around, attracting a greater…
In Publishing
Participants: greyorm, talysman, Ron Edwards, MJ Stahl, Pramas, Le Joueur, Matt Snyder, quozl, James Holloway, Mike Holmes, Valamir.

11/15/2002 Mike Holmes: Hero Wars in an Alternate Setting - Session 3
Refer to the prior session here. Summary This may be the last summary of the action of play at least until other issues come up. At this point all the…
In Actual Play
Participants: Mike Holmes, contracycle, Ian Cooper.

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