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6/7/2002 Nathan: I suck. Click here to find out why! [e-publishing]
Well, Eldritch Ass Kicking went up for sale last night. I was so excited. I came back into the office today, finished up some website changes, and so on. I…
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Participants: Nathan, J B Bell, Mike Holmes, Gordon C. Landis, Valamir, Ron Edwards, Matt.


6/5/2002 contracycle: CD burners
Theres been some discussion round cutting CD's for games. Not much, but some. As it happens, browsing a techie catalogue, I see you can get a mass batch copier for…
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Participants: contracycle, Clinton R. Nixon, A.Neill, Ron Edwards, Clay.


6/4/2002 Jack Spencer Jr: Amateur RPG Design Manifesto
Over in this thread I started drifting way off topic about the difference between professional, especially indie RPG design and amateur design. Ron suggested that I should start a new…
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Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, Ron Edwards, Gordon C. Landis, Clay.


5/30/2002 Paganini: Marketing
So, the publisher for my cinematic action game was the same as Sidhain's and I've got a bunch of comments and reports and an unedited manuscript sitting around on my…
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Participants: Paganini, Ron Edwards, Michael Hopcroft.


5/30/2002 Michael Hopcroft: Avoiding the Retail Channel
Having just got off the phone with one of the main providers to the retail channel, it became apparent that he would want me to brint at least 3,000 copies…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Jake Norwood, Clinton R. Nixon, Jason L Blair, Ron Edwards.


5/28/2002 Evan Waters: Licensed names/products
But suppose such a game were freeware, say on the web- technically that's still not legal, but I feel such a thing is ethically defensible, and it doesn't seem like…
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Participants: Evan Waters, Jared A. Sorensen, Ron Edwards, Paganini, Valamir, Buddha Nature.


5/25/2002 Ron Edwards: GenCon 2002 - update & policy
Hello, Jason and I have spent some time hammering out these points and procedures. I know some of them are different from what we said before, but we hit a…
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Participants: Ron Edwards, Jared A. Sorensen, Paul Czege, joshua neff, Jason L Blair, Zak Arntson, Seth L. Blumberg, woodelf, Nathan.


5/21/2002 Michael Hopcroft: Confidence
Since Clinton suggested answering this question in another thread, I'm, starting one. Why do gamers often seem to have such low self-confience, particularly potential RPG publishers? I know that in…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Clay, Ron Edwards, Tim Gray, Cynthia Celeste Miller, Jake Norwood.


5/20/2002 Bailey: Viability of E-mail at the beginning
Right now I'm putting the final touches on Men of Teak's text, but am lacking in art and a decent layout program. What I want to know is if Ron's…
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Participants: Bailey, Ron Edwards, Mike Holmes, Nathan.


5/17/2002 Michael Hopcroft: Book Size?
My manuscript has finally gotten to its near-finished state of about 50,000 words. My typesetter just suggested printing at 6x9 instead of 8.5x11 like most RPG books becaue of the…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Clay, Ron Edwards.


5/17/2002 Michael Hopcroft: GenCon
It's big, to the point of almostg ebing bloated. It has that huge castle in the middle of the dealers room. But GenCon is still THE big RPG show and…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Jason L Blair, Ron Edwards.


5/15/2002 Ron Edwards: All RPG book publishers take note
Hello, This message is for those of us who publish, or are about to publish, an RPG intended to be available in retail stores. I strongly recommend that company websites…
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Participants: Ron Edwards.


5/14/2002 Michael Hopcroft: Introducing Myself
Hi there! Cynthia Celeste Miller of Spectrum Game Studios pointed me here, and I thought I'd introduce myself seeing as I can;t find a better place to do so. MY…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Ron Edwards, Clinton R. Nixon, Clay.


5/14/2002 jburneko: Percieved Validity
Hello All, I don't often post in this forum but there's something that's been on my mind about the public perception of indie published games. Before I started coming to…
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Participants: jburneko, Jack Spencer Jr.


5/14/2002 xiombarg: Vanity Publishers?
Okay, in this thread, someone talks about http://www.goldenpillarpublishing.com/... Now, I have to admit that ever since I first heard about it, my thought was: "What the f*$%? What is this,…
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Participants: xiombarg, Michael Hopcroft, Jerry D. Grayson.


5/9/2002 Sidhain: Help! Help!
The publisher who was supposed to produce several of my works (and was under contract to do so) has basically defaulted--no money changed hands, and my property of course remains…
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Participants: Sidhain, Ron Edwards, Misguided Games, Michael Hopcroft.


5/6/2002 Nathan: Next Project: Interactive Format
Alright, I don't remember if we've talked about this or not -- I have another game that is taking shape in the wing of my head cavity called The Cross.…
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Participants: Nathan, Paul Czege, Ron Edwards, Clay, Jared A. Sorensen, rafael.


5/4/2002 sdemory: Problems with PDFs
Hey, all, Having recently put my game out for public purchase (www.memento-mori.com/lmm ), I'm having some difficulties with PDF delivery. My PDF's about 3.4 megs, which is too large for…
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Participants: sdemory, Ferry Bazelmans, Chris Passeno, Matt Gwinn, Jared A. Sorensen, J B Bell, Clinton R. Nixon, Clay, Tim Gray.


5/3/2002 Laurel: Looking at the new Mall
http://mall.rpg.net/faq/merchantfaq.phtml Folks with previous experience selling downloads? How do the new RPGNet Mall Merchant terms compare to other services you've used, including hosting everything yourself and going through Paypal? The…
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Participants: Laurel, Jared A. Sorensen, Ron Edwards, Cynthia Celeste Miller, Valamir, Matt Gwinn, Jack Spencer Jr, Emily_Dresner, Matt, Tim Gray, GMSkarka.


5/1/2002 Matt Gwinn: Getting Down to "Business"
Well, as Gencon approaches and I prepare to send Kayfabe to press I thought I should clear up a few things before I end up screwing myself. At what point…
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Participants: Matt Gwinn, Jared A. Sorensen, Gordon C. Landis, Clay, Seth L. Blumberg.


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6/10/2002 Demonspahn: Dreamwalker: Roleplaying in the Land of Dreams released
Hi everyone. Dreamwalker: Roleplaying in the Land of Dreams is now available for purchase. You play a Dreamwalker who enters the dreams of other people in an effort to rid…
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Participants: Demonspahn.


6/12/2002 Zak Arntson: Distribution: Email vs. Private Webpage
I'm getting close to releasing Chthonian as a small shareware via email. But would a private webpage be a better route? I know of several people who have had great…
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Participants: Zak Arntson, Clinton R. Nixon, Ron Edwards, Cynthia Celeste Miller, Matt Gwinn, Adam, hyphz, Matt, quozl, Valamir, Mike Holmes, xiombarg, Michael Hopcroft.


6/15/2002 splattergnome: Average amount of sales?
i was wondering just how many times an "average" (if there is such a thing) indie rpg sells. both in print form, as well as electronically. how many times does…
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Participants: splattergnome, Ron Edwards, Cynthia Celeste Miller.


6/15/2002 Clinton R. Nixon: PDF idea
An odd idea I just had: when selling an game on your website, make it completely free for download - but set the permissions in the PDF such that it's…
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Participants: Clinton R. Nixon, Jack Spencer Jr, Nathan, Matt Gwinn, Adam, Tim Denee, Chris Passeno, Cynthia Celeste Miller, Bankuei, hive, Michael Hopcroft, tribalkid, Ron Edwards, Jason L Blair, Bailey, Eugene Zee.


6/16/2002 Michael Hopcroft: Question for moderators
The PDF of my game will be coming out in two weeks -- U just found out from my typesetter it will be ready June 24th. I want to offer…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Ron Edwards.


6/17/2002 Michael Hopcroft: A .PDF query
I have a query for the folks who regularly buy .pDF RPG's -- what's the most you think people would be willing to pay for a complete RPG in .PDF…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Jake Norwood, Valamir, Clinton R. Nixon, Jared A. Sorensen, Victor Gijsbers, Mike Holmes, rafael, Seth L. Blumberg, Matt Snyder, Nathan, Ron Edwards, pigames, contracycle, Le Joueur, Walt Freitag, Clay, Matt Gwinn, Bailey, Eugene Zee.


6/18/2002 Jared A. Sorensen: Whither the Art?
The subject of RPGs-without-art* reared its head in the post A .PDF Query and I wanted to focus more on this subject. First of all, I think one assumption…
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Participants: Jared A. Sorensen, Matt Snyder, Christopher Kubasik, Ferry Bazelmans, Zak Arntson, Matt Gwinn, Ron Edwards, hive, Dav, Michael Hopcroft, Valamir, Eugene Zee, Bankuei, Jason L Blair, Misguided Games.


6/19/2002 Demonspahn: Golden Pillar Publishing---personal experience
Hi all. In a previous thread, a few questions were asked about Golden Pillar Publishing and I just wanted to relay my experience with them so far. First off,…
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Participants: Demonspahn, Valamir, Ron Edwards, CLAVDIVS, Mike Holmes, sandy@rpg.net.


6/19/2002 Valamir: On RPG's and Pricing
There've been some discussions here about the current pricing range of RPGs during which I've offered my opinion that in general RPG books are priced to low (which IMO is…
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Participants: Valamir, hive, Paul Czege, Laurel, Mike Holmes, JSDiamond, Matt Gwinn, Jason L Blair, contracycle, Gordon C. Landis, Ron Edwards, Misguided Games, pigames.


6/19/2002 quozl: dustjackets?
I finally saw Sorcerer the other day and noticed it's a hardcover with a dustjacket. What do people think about dustjackets? Do gamers like them? Also, are they cheaper or…
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Participants: quozl, Ferry Bazelmans, Ron Edwards, Valamir, Misguided Games, Clay, Buddha Nature, Sidhain.


6/21/2002 rafael: The book and the PDF
So I'm still not sure how long Dread will be when published, or how, exactly, it will be bound. However, I have made up my mind about one thing. Kinda.…
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Participants: rafael, Jared A. Sorensen, Paul Czege, Matt Gwinn, Eugene Zee, Clay, Valamir, pigames.


6/22/2002 hive: Blurring The Lines
Let me first state that i'm not the voice of freelance illustrators. I don't intend to be and i certainly don't incline myself to be. Freelancing artwork is hard. Very…
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Participants: hive, Jared A. Sorensen, Ron Edwards, greyorm, JSDiamond, Eugene Zee.


6/23/2002 Jack Spencer Jr: Freebie version creation
From another thread, My question is...how do you show a partial system? Don't alot of system mechanics relate and rely upon each other? How do you preview half o'…
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Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, Ron Edwards, Jared A. Sorensen, Clinton R. Nixon, Bankuei, xiombarg, Bailey, hive, Tim C Koppang.


6/25/2002 Matt Gwinn: First Kayfabe Print Run
I hope this doesn't hurt my sales. I got my copies of Kayfabe today and I have to admit that I am not 100% satisfied with the way it turned…
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Participants: Matt Gwinn, pigames, Chris Passeno, Paul Czege, Eugene Zee, Walt Freitag, Seth L. Blumberg, Jason L Blair, Ron Edwards.


6/27/2002 Michael Hopcroft: MY game is ready!
Well, HeartQuest is at the porinters and the PDF version is ready to be sold. RPGNow will be carrying it, possibly as early as tomorrow, several other e-tailers will carry…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Ron Edwards, Jason L Blair, hive.


6/28/2002 Michael Hopcroft: What happens when you catch a typo too late?
I heard from my printer this afternoon and she said they were going to send me my proofs tomorrow (whoich is good) and they;'d found a couple of problems (which…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Ron Edwards, Cynthia Celeste Miller, Chris Passeno, Matt Gwinn, Adam.


6/29/2002 Michael Hopcroft: Any last thoughts before I leave for Origins?
Turns out I get on that Greyhound to go to Origins on Monday. I have no idea what to expect, little idea of what I'm supposed to do, and a…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Adam.


7/4/2002 Henry Fitch: The Big Box
Y'know how some games used to come in big boxes, with bunches of different books and maps and funs stuff like that? Getting Everway recently made me realize how much…
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Participants: Henry Fitch, Ron Edwards, Bailey, Matt Gwinn, rafael, Jack Spencer Jr.


7/8/2002 bluekabuto: Cookie Fu Goes to Press, Gen Con, and Cafe Press
Konnichiwa - Blue Kabuto would like to announce that Cookie Fu has gone to production! The dice have gone off to the manufacturing plant and we're prepping the other contents…
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Participants: bluekabuto.


7/8/2002 Ron Edwards: Origins debriefing
Hi everyone, Here's my Origins Report! I'll start by clarifying that Origins is one of the two big player-targeted gaming conventions, sponsored by GAMA (the Game Manufacturer's Association), which also…
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Participants: Ron Edwards, Mike Holmes, Jake Norwood, Misguided Games, Michael Hopcroft.


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