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6/23/2002 Jack Spencer Jr: Freebie version creation
From another thread, My question is...how do you show a partial system? Don't alot of system mechanics relate and rely upon each other? How do you preview half o'…
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Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, Ron Edwards, Jared A. Sorensen, Clinton R. Nixon, Bankuei, xiombarg, Bailey, hive, Tim C Koppang.


6/22/2002 hive: Blurring The Lines
Let me first state that i'm not the voice of freelance illustrators. I don't intend to be and i certainly don't incline myself to be. Freelancing artwork is hard. Very…
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Participants: hive, Jared A. Sorensen, Ron Edwards, greyorm, JSDiamond, Eugene Zee.


6/21/2002 rafael: The book and the PDF
So I'm still not sure how long Dread will be when published, or how, exactly, it will be bound. However, I have made up my mind about one thing. Kinda.…
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Participants: rafael, Jared A. Sorensen, Paul Czege, Matt Gwinn, Eugene Zee, Clay, Valamir, pigames.


6/19/2002 quozl: dustjackets?
I finally saw Sorcerer the other day and noticed it's a hardcover with a dustjacket. What do people think about dustjackets? Do gamers like them? Also, are they cheaper or…
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Participants: quozl, Ferry Bazelmans, Ron Edwards, Valamir, Misguided Games, Clay, Buddha Nature, Sidhain.


6/19/2002 Valamir: On RPG's and Pricing
There've been some discussions here about the current pricing range of RPGs during which I've offered my opinion that in general RPG books are priced to low (which IMO is…
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Participants: Valamir, hive, Paul Czege, Laurel, Mike Holmes, JSDiamond, Matt Gwinn, Jason L Blair, contracycle, Gordon C. Landis, Ron Edwards, Misguided Games, pigames.


6/19/2002 Demonspahn: Golden Pillar Publishing---personal experience
Hi all. In a previous thread, a few questions were asked about Golden Pillar Publishing and I just wanted to relay my experience with them so far. First off,…
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Participants: Demonspahn, Valamir, Ron Edwards, CLAVDIVS, Mike Holmes, sandy@rpg.net.


6/18/2002 Jared A. Sorensen: Whither the Art?
The subject of RPGs-without-art* reared its head in the post A .PDF Query and I wanted to focus more on this subject. First of all, I think one assumption…
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Participants: Jared A. Sorensen, Matt Snyder, Christopher Kubasik, Ferry Bazelmans, Zak Arntson, Matt Gwinn, Ron Edwards, hive, Dav, Michael Hopcroft, Valamir, Eugene Zee, Bankuei, Jason L Blair, Misguided Games.


6/17/2002 Michael Hopcroft: A .PDF query
I have a query for the folks who regularly buy .pDF RPG's -- what's the most you think people would be willing to pay for a complete RPG in .PDF…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Jake Norwood, Valamir, Clinton R. Nixon, Jared A. Sorensen, Victor Gijsbers, Mike Holmes, rafael, Seth L. Blumberg, Matt Snyder, Nathan, Ron Edwards, pigames, contracycle, Le Joueur, Walt Freitag, Clay, Matt Gwinn, Bailey, Eugene Zee.


6/16/2002 Michael Hopcroft: Question for moderators
The PDF of my game will be coming out in two weeks -- U just found out from my typesetter it will be ready June 24th. I want to offer…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Ron Edwards.


6/15/2002 Clinton R. Nixon: PDF idea
An odd idea I just had: when selling an game on your website, make it completely free for download - but set the permissions in the PDF such that it's…
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Participants: Clinton R. Nixon, Jack Spencer Jr, Nathan, Matt Gwinn, Adam, Tim Denee, Chris Passeno, Cynthia Celeste Miller, Bankuei, hive, Michael Hopcroft, tribalkid, Ron Edwards, Jason L Blair, Bailey, Eugene Zee.


6/15/2002 splattergnome: Average amount of sales?
i was wondering just how many times an "average" (if there is such a thing) indie rpg sells. both in print form, as well as electronically. how many times does…
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Participants: splattergnome, Ron Edwards, Cynthia Celeste Miller.


6/12/2002 Zak Arntson: Distribution: Email vs. Private Webpage
I'm getting close to releasing Chthonian as a small shareware via email. But would a private webpage be a better route? I know of several people who have had great…
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Participants: Zak Arntson, Clinton R. Nixon, Ron Edwards, Cynthia Celeste Miller, Matt Gwinn, Adam, hyphz, Matt, quozl, Valamir, Mike Holmes, xiombarg, Michael Hopcroft.


6/10/2002 Demonspahn: Dreamwalker: Roleplaying in the Land of Dreams released
Hi everyone. Dreamwalker: Roleplaying in the Land of Dreams is now available for purchase. You play a Dreamwalker who enters the dreams of other people in an effort to rid…
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Participants: Demonspahn.


6/9/2002 Michael Hopcroft: Last-minute Origins trip
It seems that, at the last minute, I have to go to Origins. It's a long story, but my licensee (one of them, at least) wants to meet with me…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Chris Passeno, Adam.


6/7/2002 Nathan: I suck. Click here to find out why! [e-publishing]
Well, Eldritch Ass Kicking went up for sale last night. I was so excited. I came back into the office today, finished up some website changes, and so on. I…
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Participants: Nathan, J B Bell, Mike Holmes, Gordon C. Landis, Valamir, Ron Edwards, Matt.


6/5/2002 contracycle: CD burners
Theres been some discussion round cutting CD's for games. Not much, but some. As it happens, browsing a techie catalogue, I see you can get a mass batch copier for…
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Participants: contracycle, Clinton R. Nixon, A.Neill, Ron Edwards, Clay.


6/4/2002 Jack Spencer Jr: Amateur RPG Design Manifesto
Over in this thread I started drifting way off topic about the difference between professional, especially indie RPG design and amateur design. Ron suggested that I should start a new…
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Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, Ron Edwards, Gordon C. Landis, Clay.


5/30/2002 Paganini: Marketing
So, the publisher for my cinematic action game was the same as Sidhain's and I've got a bunch of comments and reports and an unedited manuscript sitting around on my…
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Participants: Paganini, Ron Edwards, Michael Hopcroft.


5/30/2002 Michael Hopcroft: Avoiding the Retail Channel
Having just got off the phone with one of the main providers to the retail channel, it became apparent that he would want me to brint at least 3,000 copies…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Jake Norwood, Clinton R. Nixon, Jason L Blair, Ron Edwards.


5/28/2002 Evan Waters: Licensed names/products
But suppose such a game were freeware, say on the web- technically that's still not legal, but I feel such a thing is ethically defensible, and it doesn't seem like…
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Participants: Evan Waters, Jared A. Sorensen, Ron Edwards, Paganini, Valamir, Buddha Nature.


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6/27/2002 Michael Hopcroft: MY game is ready!
Well, HeartQuest is at the porinters and the PDF version is ready to be sold. RPGNow will be carrying it, possibly as early as tomorrow, several other e-tailers will carry…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Ron Edwards, Jason L Blair, hive.


6/28/2002 Michael Hopcroft: What happens when you catch a typo too late?
I heard from my printer this afternoon and she said they were going to send me my proofs tomorrow (whoich is good) and they;'d found a couple of problems (which…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Ron Edwards, Cynthia Celeste Miller, Chris Passeno, Matt Gwinn, Adam.


6/29/2002 Michael Hopcroft: Any last thoughts before I leave for Origins?
Turns out I get on that Greyhound to go to Origins on Monday. I have no idea what to expect, little idea of what I'm supposed to do, and a…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Adam.


7/4/2002 Henry Fitch: The Big Box
Y'know how some games used to come in big boxes, with bunches of different books and maps and funs stuff like that? Getting Everway recently made me realize how much…
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Participants: Henry Fitch, Ron Edwards, Bailey, Matt Gwinn, rafael, Jack Spencer Jr.


7/8/2002 bluekabuto: Cookie Fu Goes to Press, Gen Con, and Cafe Press
Konnichiwa - Blue Kabuto would like to announce that Cookie Fu has gone to production! The dice have gone off to the manufacturing plant and we're prepping the other contents…
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Participants: bluekabuto.


7/8/2002 Ron Edwards: Origins debriefing
Hi everyone, Here's my Origins Report! I'll start by clarifying that Origins is one of the two big player-targeted gaming conventions, sponsored by GAMA (the Game Manufacturer's Association), which also…
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Participants: Ron Edwards, Mike Holmes, Jake Norwood, Misguided Games, Michael Hopcroft.


7/9/2002 Ron Edwards: The Forge at GenCon - CRUCIAL POST
So far, based on my financial records, here are the people who are going to be at the booth, in addition to me and Jason. Gordon Landis Scott Knipe Paul…
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Participants: Ron Edwards, Matt Gwinn, Jürgen Mayer, Matt Snyder, Demonspahn, Jason L Blair, Jerry D. Grayson, TSL, Misguided Games, Gordon C. Landis, GreatWolf, woodelf.


7/11/2002 Matt Gwinn: Distribution Question
I just received an email from Esdevium Games Limited, an RPG distributor in the UK. One of their customers asked about Kayfabe, so they asked for my terms and such.…
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Participants: Matt Gwinn, Eugene Zee, Matt, Ron Edwards, Clinton R. Nixon, Jake Norwood.


7/11/2002 jrients: How do you promote?
Howdy folks! I'm a newbie here at the Forge, so please try to go easy on me. The Resource Library at the Forge has led me to a…
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Participants: jrients, Jared A. Sorensen, Ron Edwards.


7/11/2002 Jason L Blair: GU, Forbeck, and Independent Games
Excerpt from "State of the Gaming Industry 2002" by Matt Forbeck. From Games Unplugged Issue 17 (June 2002). The Real Independents I'm not denigrating the independents for their efforts. For…
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Participants: Jason L Blair, Jürgen Mayer, Valamir, Ron Edwards.


7/12/2002 Zak Arntson: MonkeyWrench - Convention Edition
Not sure where to post this. It's kind of an experiment. I'm toying with a "Convention Edition" flier for publicity: A fully playable game that fits on one piece of…
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Participants: Zak Arntson, Ben Morgan.


7/15/2002 Michael Hopcroft: Due to circumstances beyond my control....
.... I might as well crawl into a hole and detonate the nearest hand-grenade. I got home from origins (after three days on the bus in nightmaring conditions) only to…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Clinton R. Nixon, Ron Edwards, Mike Holmes, Clay, Jason L Blair.


7/16/2002 Michael Hopcroft: How committed is committed?
IN the back of the HeartQuest book I had an ad for the next game Seraphim Guard was planning to publish, Fuzz: the Furry Police RPG. IT's a nice-looking ad…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Ron Edwards, rafael, Valamir, Gordon C. Landis.


7/16/2002 Michael Hopcroft: I'll be at the GPA Booth, but....
I'd like some advice on suitable activities to run at my booth to promote my game. I"m scheduled to run two full demos in the veent hall -- one of…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Ron Edwards, Misguided Games, Valamir, Jake Norwood.


7/16/2002 Matt Snyder: How many copies?
Here's a question sparked by Jared's pole of who will buy octaNe. I'm aiming this at the folks who've done this before, namely Ron and Jason. How many copies of…
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Participants: Matt Snyder, Jason L Blair, Clinton R. Nixon, joshua neff, Ron Edwards, Mike Holmes, Matt Gwinn, Michael Hopcroft, Jürgen Mayer, Eugene Zee, Misguided Games, Tim Denee.


7/18/2002 Ron Edwards: Trollbabe exists
Ha ha! Oh, this game is so wonderful ... Matt Snyder has cemented his place in my pantheon of Amazing Role-playing Professionals, due to his work on its layout. Anyway,…
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Participants: Ron Edwards, Matt Snyder, greyorm.


7/18/2002 Jake Norwood: Supplements Big and Small, Good and Bad
I've been thinking a lot about the roll of supplements lately. I've had many conversations with Ron and others about them and "what makes a good supplment" in the past,…
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Participants: Jake Norwood, Clinton R. Nixon, Ron Edwards, Zak Arntson, Jared A. Sorensen, Le Joueur, xiombarg, Eugene Zee, Matt, Dav, Michael Hopcroft, toshiro.


7/18/2002 Clinton R. Nixon: RPGnow
I know we've talked about this before, but I want to know if anyone around here has any hard data - has anyone sold anything through RPGnow.com? (I know for…
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Participants: Clinton R. Nixon, Michael Hopcroft, Matt Gwinn, Valamir, xiombarg, Matt, greyorm, quozl, Cynthia Celeste Miller, rpghost.


7/19/2002 Michael Hopcroft: CyberCon
I've been asked to get a vendor booth at this year's CyberCon and to run games there. Since this is an on-line game convention and I've never tried to sell…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Dav.


7/19/2002 Michael Hopcroft: Mailing Lists
Many publishers now use free or cheap mailing list services to provide mailing lists to support their games on the Internet. I currently manage four mailing lists; one devoted to…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Jared A. Sorensen, Ron Edwards.


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