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11/20/2002 S.Lonergan: Bindings -- Thoughts and Musings
First off, let me introduce the kind of binding im talking about. Im not sure of the technical name for it, but its the homemade type were its just one…
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Participants: S.Lonergan, DaR, Chris Passeno, Pramas, Matt Snyder, talysman, Seth L. Blumberg, Christoffer Lernö, JSDiamond, Mike Holmes, Mark D. Eddy, KeithBVaughn.


11/18/2002 Jonathan Walton: Semantics: Roleplaying vs. Storytelling
This is another by-product by the recent emphasis on "going mainstream" in design, publication, and publicity. Now, I know Ron has said he's not too fond of the term "storytelling…
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Participants: Jonathan Walton, Le Joueur, Ron Edwards, Jack Spencer Jr, Christopher Kubasik, quozl, Maurice Forrester, Seth L. Blumberg, John Wick, Jared A. Sorensen, Emily Care, mattcolville, talysman.


11/17/2002 coxcomb: Reaching customers
Hi all, I'm new to the boards but have already found much inspiration on the site. My question is deceptively simple: What are the most effective ways of reaching customers…
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Participants: coxcomb, Cynthia Celeste Miller, Pramas, Ron Edwards, Misguided Games.


11/17/2002 Kester Pelagius: ATTN: Question for ALL RPG Game Publishers
Greetings All, This post is primarily aimed at anyone out there who is at the buisness end of the role-playing hobby cum industry. To preface: I am in the process…
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Participants: Kester Pelagius, rafael.


11/17/2002 Clinton R. Nixon: The game that would sell to non-roleplayers
Jon's post in What would make a non-roleplayer buy your game? got me thinking about what sort of mainstream game would sell well to non-gamers. However, it's a little off…
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Participants: Clinton R. Nixon, talysman, J B Bell, Jonathan Walton, Ron Edwards, Valamir, quozl, Le Joueur, Bankuei, Mike Holmes.


11/16/2002 MJ Stahl: E-commerce
From a (e-commerce) business standpoint of view standpoint of view, I have learned my entire web promotion know-how from the the adult (ie, porn) industry, having been working in it…
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Participants: MJ Stahl, Ron Edwards.


11/15/2002 quozl: What would make a non-roleplayer buy your game?
Here's the idea, a little exercise if you will: A non-roleplayer walks into a game store and next to the 37 versions of Monopoly sees a box with the title…
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Participants: quozl, Paul Czege, Mike Holmes, Ron Edwards, Le Joueur, Jonathan Walton, MK Snyder, talysman, GreatWolf, b_bankhead, Emily Care.


11/15/2002 talysman: Promotion (split from Mainstream)
[quote="Ron Edwards"] John (Talysman), dude, please, all that belongs in [i]another thread[/i]. I'd rather not have to lock this one, but I don't think I've encountered this much resistance about…
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Participants: talysman, quozl, Ron Edwards.


11/15/2002 Jack Spencer Jr: active vs passive entertainment From Mainstream: A revision
This was in the Mainstream A revision thread, but as that thread is now closed, I've started a new thread. One thing that seems to be overlooked in this discussion…
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Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, talysman, Ron Edwards, Le Joueur, wyrdlyng.


11/15/2002 greyorm: The Store
Over in Mainstream: a revision, Ron says specifically it isn't about the store. I'm in some disagreement about this...after reading everything being said about turning things around, attracting a greater…
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Participants: greyorm, talysman, Ron Edwards, MJ Stahl, Pramas, Le Joueur, Matt Snyder, quozl, James Holloway, Mike Holmes, Valamir.


11/14/2002 rafael: Dread: The Second Coming
This is going to be a weekend of seconds for Dread. This is the second month that it's been in print, I just sold out of my first print run…
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Participants: rafael, S.Lonergan, Demonspahn, xiombarg.


11/13/2002 aryus: Free DTP Software (Pageplus 5)
Just in case anyone is interested, you can get a free copy of Serif's PagePlus 5 Desktop Publishing software at http://freeserifsoftware.com They also offer some of their other programs for…
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Participants: aryus, Clinton R. Nixon.


11/13/2002 Jon H: Production value (split from Mainstream)
[quote="Paul Czege"]Hey Jon, Fantastic post. Having never seen a pg45 style store, it's strange and exciting to see you write of the nuts and bolts from firsthand. Seeing description of…
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Participants: Jon H, Ron Edwards.


11/12/2002 Ron Edwards: Mainstream: a revision
Hello, I'd like to address the issue of mainstream vs. alternative content in role-playing games. My views are essentially the same as those expressed by the proprietors of Page 45,…
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Participants: Ron Edwards, Emily Care, Jonathan Walton, Le Joueur, PeterAdkison, MK Snyder, Tundra, xiombarg, jburneko, Seth L. Blumberg, Pramas, Jack Spencer Jr, Jon H, Paul Czege, James Holloway, mearls, talysman, Eric J., greyorm, joshua neff, Christopher Kubasik, C. Edwards, quozl, Walt Freitag, b_bankhead.


11/8/2002 Misguided Games: Advertising in Model Retailer
Crossposted from GPA list: apologies to those who saw it there. I'm setting up a polybagged insert in next March's Model retailer magazine. The insert will go to about 1000…
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Participants: Misguided Games.


11/4/2002 Pramas: Dragon Fist is Mine!
Thought this might interest folks here. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE GREEN RONIN PURCHASES DRAGON FIST Origins Awarded Nominated Game to Come Back in 2003 November 4, 2002-SEATTLE, WA: Green Ronin Publishing…
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Participants: Pramas, greyorm, quozl, Ron Edwards, Jonathan Walton, Paganini, Mike Holmes.


11/3/2002 Shreyas Sampat: Learning TeX?
So, I've searched the fora for this, and though I've come across a lot of recommendations for TeX as a teyesetting medium, I can't find any resources on learning it,…
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Participants: Shreyas Sampat, Clay, Christoffer Lernö, Clinton R. Nixon, talysman.


11/3/2002 Jeffrey Miller: Publishing thread on rpg.net
I'm not sure if this got play when John Nephew originally posted it, but here's a link to an interesting break down of Atlas' numbers on the last Ars adventure…
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Participants: Jeffrey Miller, Mike Holmes, aryus.


11/3/2002 Michael Hopcroft: I'm moving
I'm moving into a new apartment complex to be closer to my day job. Sadly I am not officially allowed to run a business out of my new apartment. So…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Clay, Bob McNamee.


11/2/2002 greyorm: Tangentially...
Tangentially -- based on Chris' recent query about mythological names -- what sort of costs are involved in being sued by a company? (besides lawyers, saying you decide to represent…
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Participants: greyorm, Clay, jrients, Gordon C. Landis.


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11/22/2002 Christoffer Lernö: What does the box cost?
I'm a sucker for the old format - You know 2+ saddle stiched books in a box with a few fliers and maybe dice thrown in for good measure. (Hello…
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Participants: Christoffer Lernö, Jared A. Sorensen, Ron Edwards, Valamir, Ted E. Childers, Steve Dustin, John Wick, Henry Fitch, Michael S. Miller, geekspeakweekly, szilard.


11/22/2002 quozl: Really small hardcovers
Let's say I want to publish a book about the size of the Baron Munchausen book (24 pages) but I want it to have a spine so people can actually…
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Participants: quozl, Jared A. Sorensen, wyrdlyng, Jonathan Walton.


11/22/2002 Christopher Kubasik: Accessible? To Whom?
Hi Everyone, This is a thought spun off of Ron's Fourth of Five thread. To jump right to it: Some people are comfortable talking off the top of the their…
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Participants: Christopher Kubasik, Mike Holmes, Ron Edwards, Jack Spencer Jr.


11/22/2002 rpghost: RPGNow E-Zine
I'm wondering if there would be interest in a general PDF Publishing / RPGNow sponsored E-Zine? A platform to speak about publishing as well as reviews of PDF products and…
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Participants: rpghost.


11/23/2002 quozl: referrals
We know the vast majority of people get into RPGs by being introduced to it and we know gamers ddon't do all that much to introduce others, right? So what…
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Participants: quozl, Mike Holmes, Christoffer Lernö.


11/25/2002 Christoffer Lernö: Putting Ads for other games in your game?
I'm sure this was brought up elsewhere but I couldn't find it so I don't know if this was already discussed to death but... Remember back in the old days…
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Participants: Christoffer Lernö, Clinton R. Nixon, Ron Edwards, Sidhain, rafael, Bankuei.


11/25/2002 Jack Spencer Jr: an exstention of Ron's band metaphor
THere has been continuing discussion of how to reach potential roleplayers around lately. It seems to be problematic because RPG groups tend to be very tight and somewhat private and…
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Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, Mike Holmes, Ron Edwards, Valamir, KeithBVaughn, Clay.


11/25/2002 Grex: AlphaSmart Dana (gadget review)
(Ron, I realize that this post may be posted to the wrong thread, or possibly even be irrelevant. But it is a review of a terrific writing tool, so I…
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Participants: Grex, Ron Edwards, Matt Snyder, Le Joueur, ADGConscience.


11/27/2002 GreatWolf: James Wallis on the state of the industry
First, read this interview with James Wallis. Now, this is not supposed to be a "bang the drum slowly" thread (but see footnotes 1 and 2). However, I wanted to…
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Participants: GreatWolf, b_bankhead, Le Joueur, C. Edwards, gentrification, greyorm, John Wick, JSDiamond, Valamir, Walt Freitag, Reimer Behrends.


11/28/2002 Michael Hopcroft: I need reviews NOW.
I need to get my new and current e-books into the hands of reviewers who will post fair reviews to RPGNet and other forums that puvblish game reviews. What is…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, geekspeakweekly, Andy Kitkowski.


11/30/2002 MK Snyder: Misanthropy and game design
I have to say, I am struck at the many statements made in this forum by designers that indicate that they just don't like people. That people, in general, are…
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Participants: MK Snyder, James V. West, Clinton R. Nixon, talysman, Ron Edwards, Sidhain, Clay, Mike Holmes, JSDiamond, Maurice Forrester, Irmo, contracycle.


12/1/2002 C. Edwards: Motion rights?
This may seem like a silly question, all I can ask is that you indulge me. In the CCG Magic: The Gathering, one of the main aspects of game play…
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Participants: C. Edwards, Ron Edwards.


11/30/2002 woodelf: Re: Mainstream: a revision
[quote="Ron Edwards"]Sorcerer sells like a banshee in stores which tend toward a Page 45 model;[/quote] It kills all of the customers? ;-)
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Participants: woodelf, Ron Edwards, b_bankhead, wyrdlyng, Clay.


12/1/2002 Ted E. Childers: Not-For-Profit Gaming Company?
Being a Johnny come lately, I've only recently stumbled on an interview with John Tynes about the gaming industry. In his interview over at Ogrecave.com (http://www.ogrecave.com/interviews/johntynes.shtml) he was asked what…
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Participants: Ted E. Childers, b_bankhead, Ron Edwards, John Wick, Matt Snyder, contracycle, Valamir, Mike Holmes, Le Joueur, jrs, Walt Freitag, Clay, szilard, MK Snyder, xiombarg.


12/2/2002 quozl: Is the mainstream changing?
I just read an article in Time Magazine dated December 2, 2002 about "why we crave fantasies now". (It has the characters of The Two Towers movie on the cover.)…
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Participants: quozl, Andrew Martin, MK Snyder, Jack Spencer Jr, James V. West, Ron Edwards, JSDiamond, Emily Care.


12/2/2002 MK Snyder: D&D on Gameboy Advance = Accessibility?
[url=http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2868403,00.html] This [/url]could be a great marketing opportunity for the print D&D line. Kids who play the computer/console games also pore over the lore of cheats and hints every bit…
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Participants: MK Snyder, C. Edwards, Jack Spencer Jr, Fabrice G..


12/1/2002 woodelf: Supplement-heavy publishing strategy
[quote="Jon H"]This is fantastic to hear. How I personally think this relates to RPGs: Products that require a vast collection of supplements. The idea that supplements prove a game is…
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Participants: woodelf, James V. West, Ron Edwards.


12/3/2002 Trevor Curtis: NDFs
Hey, its me again, crazy Trevor. SO, now I've finisehd my rpg, and want to get it playtested, and eventually published. At what point do I need NDFs?(non-disclosure forms) can…
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Participants: Trevor Curtis, Ron Edwards, Mike Holmes.


12/5/2002 Clinton R. Nixon: RPGnow's new POD system
For those who aren't familiar, RPGnow is a website that sells PDFs online. Basically, you create your game, give them a copy, and they handle all fulfillment for you for…
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Participants: Clinton R. Nixon, Steve Dustin, Cynthia Celeste Miller, quozl, Paul Czege, Matt, Valamir, Mike Holmes, Ted E. Childers, Michael Hopcroft, rpghost, Nathan.


12/7/2002 Michael Hopcroft: Finally getting into the retail chain
I think I've foinally arrived: Wizard's Attic is actually carrying my game at http://www.wizards-attic.com/SeraphimGuard.HTML and tell me they've made some sales. Now the question is -- will Alliance…
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Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Ron Edwards.


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