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5/19/2003 M. J. Young: Where to post--or is it off topic?
I've got a bit of a problem, and I don't know whether anyone at the Forge can help at all. It seems that my latest work isn't getting reviews--the people…
In Site Discussion
Participants: M. J. Young, Clinton R. Nixon, Ron Edwards.

5/18/2003 Wormwood: Decision Merging: An Appoach to Hybridization
First, a little history: A while back there was a cyberpunk based CCG called Netrunner, put out by WotC using the same information property as Cyberpunk 2020. This game had…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Wormwood, M. J. Young, Ron Edwards, Walt Freitag, Mike Holmes.

5/18/2003 epweissengruber: Book for people interested in narration and human nature
I came across a book by a congitive science researcher by the name of Mark Turner. It is entitled The Literary Mind: The Origins of Thought and Language, Oxford: Oxford…
In RPG Theory
Participants: epweissengruber.

5/18/2003 Rattlehead: The Riddle of Errata?
Hi all! I'm still lurking (can't get rid of me that easily). But I've not been lurking well enough to know the answer to this question.... I still have the…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Rattlehead, Bankuei, Ashren Va'Hale, Spartan, Brian Leybourne.

5/18/2003 wyrdlyng: Wuxia Relationship Maps & adapting for S&S
[quote]And we plan to make the "Relationship Charts" in the back of the novels a feature of how the GM sets up stories to be run in the game, since…
In Adept Press
Participants: wyrdlyng, Bailywolf.

5/18/2003 Nev the Deranged: MATRIX RELOADED (may contain spoilers)
Wow. Wow. I had heard plenty of rumors about the movie (and has anyone but me noticed that there was very little commercial hype? I don't watch much tv so…
In Adept Press
Participants: Nev the Deranged, wyrdlyng, Le Joueur, Valamir.

5/17/2003 Michael Hopcroft: Reviewers wanted
I have a new product coming out int he next couple of weeks (if all goes well) and I' going to need to have reviews published. I'm looking for reviewers…
In Connections
Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Brian Leybourne, Jack Spencer Jr.

5/17/2003 Ashren Va'Hale: Evolution of Weyrth
I was wondering what changes and evolutions have occured in your versions of Weyrth... In mine, savaxen became independent under its own high king, Stahl had a nasty civil war…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Ashren Va'Hale, Mayhem1979.

5/17/2003 Ashren Va'Hale: pc's getting injured/killed
I was wondering, how often in your campaigns do your players have charcters get seriously injured or killed? It rarely happens in my games and I tend to be a…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Ashren Va'Hale, Bob Richter, Draigh, Vanguard, Jasper the Mimbo.

5/17/2003 Michael Hopcroft: HeartQuest Diceless ML
I've started a new Yahoogroup for users and developers of HeartQuest Diceless. To join, send an e-mail to: hqdiceless-subscribe@yahoogroups.com And follow the directions.
In Seraphim Guard
Participants: Michael Hopcroft.

5/17/2003 ThreeGee: Are kewl powerz inherently Gamist?
Hey all, I ask the question, "Are kewl powerz inherently gamist?" because many people strongly imply the answer is yes--that only munchkins would play a character with kewl powerz. However,…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: ThreeGee, Jack Spencer Jr, C. Edwards, Valamir, M. J. Young.

5/17/2003 Emote Control: The Supernormal
I very recently started work on a surreal espionage setting called Conspiracy Practice, but hit a artistic quandary when thinking about the more "exotic" elements. I wanted to preserve the…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Emote Control, Jeffrey Miller, Mike Holmes.

5/17/2003 Jeph: Does anyone else distinguish between System and Mechanics?
System is defined as the means by which the group agrees to imagined events during play. Or at least, that's waht Vincent, Ron, and everyone else seems to agree on.…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Jeph, Le Joueur, Valamir, jdagna, M. J. Young, Jared A. Sorensen, Alan, lumpley.

5/16/2003 Le Joueur: Mike - DO NOT READ Until After the Judging! - The Critique
The Critique of "In Your Element, Out of this World" (or IYEOW) I'm attempting to show how to use the 'tools' from the "Deliberateness and Elegance" thread in the making…
In Scattershot
Participants: Le Joueur.

5/16/2003 Bankuei: Super Happy Game Ball
Here's an idea in the forming...we'll call it the Ball for short. The Ball, represents input into "what happens next" in a game by the group. This input, is not…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Bankuei, Emily Care.

5/16/2003 Jeph: Valley of Shadow: Gettin' Gritty in the City
Valley of Shadow is a game that is set in The City. What is They City? Dunno. But it's got skyscrapers, streetgangs and black tie balls. Maybe its New York,…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Jeph, Brian Leybourne, Jeffrey Miller, ethan_greer.

5/16/2003 Le Joueur: Vive La Resistance or System Doesn't Matter
Pretty much all of the below grows out of an understanding of the many works of Ron Edwards...and dissent from them. System Doesn't Matter As far as I can tell…
In Scattershot
Participants: Le Joueur, greyorm, Garbanzo, M. J. Young, clehrich, Bankuei, Gordon C. Landis, damion, Mulciber.

5/16/2003 DaGreatJL: Looking to buy
Hey, this is my first time posting to this particular forum, so I apologize is there is something that I should know yet don't. Anyways, I am interested in buying…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: DaGreatJL, Jason Kottler, Brian Leybourne, Ron Edwards, Jake Norwood, arxhon.

5/16/2003 Fallen_Icarus: Looking for good medieval history sites
'Ello, I'm trying to run a very realistic TRoS game in Weyrth and so I'm pulling in a lot of actual history from about 1066 to the 1200s. Does anyone…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Fallen_Icarus, deltadave, Salamander, Spartan.

5/16/2003 Kester Pelagius: Setting up a small-press 'zine. . .?
Howdy, Does anyone here know how hard it would be to do? What sort of capital/licenses does one need going into such a venture? Is it even worth considering in…
In Publishing
Participants: Kester Pelagius, Mike Holmes, Matt, jrs, Jack Spencer Jr, Bankuei, Adam, Clay, Christian Walker.

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5/19/2003 M. J. Young: System versus System
According to the Lumpley principle, System is that which exists at the social contract level by which participants decide what is happening in the shared imaginary space. As such, it…
In RPG Theory
Participants: M. J. Young, Le Joueur, lumpley.

5/19/2003 M. J. Young: Why Incoherent Games Sell
In a thread in the Scattershot forum entitled Vive La Resistance or System Doesn't Matter, Fang Langford raises the question of why incoherent games sell. He suggests that it…
In RPG Theory
Participants: M. J. Young, Le Joueur, jdagna, Jeffrey Straszheim, clehrich, Jack Spencer Jr, LordSmerf, talysman, John Kim, Balbinus, damion, C. Edwards, woodelf, Mike Holmes, Ron Edwards.

5/19/2003 Michael Hopcroft: New mecha game -- MechSpace
Seraphim guard has signed tghe contracts with writer Anthony Ford to produce a new mecha RPG system called MechSpace. This will be a complete, original, D6-only mecha RPG system that…
In Seraphim Guard
Participants: Michael Hopcroft, secondzflat, Andrew Martin, Bankuei, pigames.

5/19/2003 clehrich: Confused Agendas and Practicality (LONG)
I'd like to throw the following out, and see whether it strikes a chord. If not, I'm not going to push about it. I mean what I say, but if…
In RPG Theory
Participants: clehrich, Gordon C. Landis, Le Joueur, Matt Snyder, Eric J-D, Mike Holmes.

5/19/2003 Michael Hopcroft: Paying the layout guy -- by the project or on retainer?
Right now most of the money I make at Seraphim guard is going sttraight into the pkcet of the layout guy. There's been a dry spell between products, and now…
In Publishing
Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Matt Snyder, Dav, Adam.

5/19/2003 gmouser: on wounding and healing
hi all, sorry for my poor english, but this isn't my mother tongue... please be patient! I love TROS, but one thing I don't like very much is that after…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: gmouser, Tywin Lannister, Brian Leybourne, Prince of Thieves, Wolfen.

5/19/2003 Bankuei: New Narrativism and the GNS's Closeted Sister
Hi Fang, Ok, looks like we're on the same page with a lot of stuff, that was the clarification I needed. What about a different perspective that takes the…
In Scattershot
Participants: Bankuei, Le Joueur, Gordon C. Landis, clehrich.

5/19/2003 brainwipe: Downtime
Do you do downtime in your group? If so, how do you go about it? I have just started it up amongst the more keen players in my group. Here's…
In Actual Play
Participants: brainwipe, Dav, Jack Spencer Jr, erithromycin.

5/19/2003 Eduardoh: CharGen
I´ve just instaled the Chargen and I keep geting a massage that says " You copy of the character generator seems to be corrupted ( you have been playing with…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Eduardoh, Brian Leybourne.

5/19/2003 Valamir: Another RPGNet TROS thread
This one currently has a somewhat "big whoop" negative flavor to it so a few well placed comments might be a good idea. I'd caution against any bum rush of…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Valamir, Eamon Voss, Durgil, Furious D, Ashren Va'Hale, Bankuei, Thorbrin, Wolfen, Balbinus, toli, Nick Pagnucco, Jake Norwood, Brian Leybourne.

5/19/2003 Wormwood: Drumming II (split)
I'd actually think more in terms of a tuba, but that's just the brass player in me. This sort of behavior, especially in the context of what Mario said about…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Wormwood, Ron Edwards.

5/19/2003 Jack Spencer Jr: What sells?
Over in Why Incoherent Games Sell Fang drifted the topic a bit and I realised that I would wind up drifting the topic completely so I started a new thread.…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, Bankuei, DaGreatJL, Gordon C. Landis, Jack Aidley, C. Edwards, John Kim.

5/19/2003 iago: The Three Sentence Understanding
I've read (or tried to read) the GNS articles, and I don't honestly feel like I've come away from them all that much more enlightened about it all. A major…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: iago, Bankuei, talysman, M. J. Young, Wormwood, jburneko, ThreeGee, Mike Holmes, Ron Edwards.

5/19/2003 Eric J-D: S&S: It's like you read my mind
Hi Ron, Hooray, I bought Sorcerer and Sorcerer & Sword this weekend and have already read through much of each. Briefly, the reason for my post is simply to wax…
In Adept Press
Participants: Eric J-D, Valamir, Bankuei, Andy Kitkowski, ethan_greer, Ron Edwards.

5/19/2003 lumpley: Missing the Lumpley Principle Boat
Hey, I just wanna pop in and defend my little principle. Fang, I'm with you ab-so-lutely when it comes to participation and inspiration. The only reason to play with mechanics…
In Scattershot
Participants: lumpley, Le Joueur, ejh.

5/19/2003 Walt Freitag: Index to Iron Game Chef - Simulationist
[quote="an Iron Game Chef competitor"]Chairman, allow me to honor you with this small gift.[/quote] [quote="The Chairman"]Thank you. Of course, you understand that this will have no effect on the judging.[/quote]…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Walt Freitag.

5/19/2003 Green: Kathanaksaya: a (not quite) finished game needs testing
Aside from the lack of interesting graphics or even much of a background, the game I have been working on, Kathanaksaya, is complete. Right now, I think there is little…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Green, Phillip, Lxndr.

5/20/2003 M. J. Young: Seeking reviewers for game-related fiction
For some reason, several of the reviewers who have in the past reviewed Multiverser game products have not responded to an offer to review the latest publication. It may be…
In Connections
Participants: M. J. Young, clehrich, talysman, Sylus Thane, dragongrace.

5/20/2003 Emote Control: RPGs as art form?
I have been thinking recently about RPG design, and something struck me about the nature of the process itself. It consists of human beings devising concepts, which they put into…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Emote Control, clehrich, John Kim, M. J. Young, jdagna, Mike Holmes, C. Edwards, Ron Edwards, dragongrace, Emily Care, Paul Czege, John Kirk, Jack Spencer Jr, Hunter Logan.

5/20/2003 ethan_greer: [Thugs and Thieves] Playtest Version 1
Well, as the clouds of steam and cooking aromas disperse from the Iron Game Chef competition, in which I was a proud participant, I once more return to my current…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: ethan_greer, Emily Care, Simon W, Walt Freitag.

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