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7/2/2004 Noon: Mmm, I think I'll roleplay some roleplay
How well this'll get articulated, who can say. Do you think that it can get to the point where, instead of wanting to play a game so as to enter…
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Participants: Noon, orbsmatt, sirogit, ADGBoss, Doctor Xero, Jack Spencer Jr, clehrich, LordSmerf, Mike Holmes.


6/30/2004 thereformant: Sacred cows II (split)
i can see your point completely but if everyone shot their sacred cows i have a feeling that nothing really new or revolutionary would ever really happen
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Participants: thereformant, Balbinus, Ron Edwards, xiombarg, Paganini, Precious Villain, madelf, Noon, MR. Analytical, M. J. Young.


6/30/2004 Emily Care: game design and psychology
I've been thinking about this since I started poking around for examples of psychological examination type role-playing. My search lead me to think about psychological aspects of roleplaying all together,…
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Participants: Emily Care, Christopher Weeks, ADGBoss, TonyLB, JackBauer, lumpley, ZenDog.


6/30/2004 Jinx: Mechanics/System Choice for Virtual Sim Game
I'm working on a campaign involving characters who are themselves players in an advanced, online virtual reality MMORPG, set in the near future to provide for things like neural shunts…
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Participants: Jinx, ADGBoss, John Kim, Mr. Sluagh, M. J. Young, Doctor Xero.


6/28/2004 ethan_greer: Son of Greer Manifesto
Hello everyone, this is a continuation or new chapter in the discussion started over in this other thread. I've tried to incorporate a lot of the ideas and sentiments expressed,…
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Participants: ethan_greer, Mr. Sluagh, Erick Wujcik, timfire, Christopher Weeks, Ravien.


6/26/2004 JackBauer: Imagined Space Modules
[quote]Noon wrote: Usually a lot of discussion goes on about what you can do with an RPG, taking the Shared Imaginatiove Space involved for granted to do what your interested…
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Participants: JackBauer, Jack Spencer Jr, Noon, M. J. Young, Andrew Norris, simon_hibbs, contracycle, ethan_greer, Christopher Weeks.


6/26/2004 komradebob: Filing Edges: Secret Knowledge
First, apologies for borrowing domeone else's title for this post ( but I thought it was such a great heading, I couldn't resist). I've been thinking about this subject ever…
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Participants: komradebob, TonyLB, M. J. Young, beingfrank, ethan_greer.


6/25/2004 JamesDJIII: Forking the Build and Social Context
From thread http://indie-rpgs.com/viewtopic.php?t=11705... Last night I agreed to return to and continue to GM for our Thursday night group. I made several statements earlier to the group about my desire…
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Participants: JamesDJIII, ADGBoss.


6/25/2004 ethan_greer: Everyone's a Gamer: A Rant
So, here's the basic premise: Everyone enjoys role-playing. Everyone. There are no exceptions. Every child pretends. Every culture has traditions of storytelling. Everyone enjoys role-playing, period. If that's true (and…
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Participants: ethan_greer, quozl, Lxndr, lumpley, Jonathan Walton, TonyLB, Ben Lehman, sergeant_x, ADGBoss, JackBauer, Erick Wujcik, rafial, SlurpeeMoney, Noon, Mark Johnson, Cephalopod, Ravien, Jack Spencer Jr, komradebob, Rob Carriere, Matt, Dev, Tobias.


6/24/2004 Alf_the_Often_Incorrect: An alternative to XP
I have had a cool concept sitting in my brain for a while, which probobaly already has been used, but I'll post it anyway. This is an alternative to XP…
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Participants: Alf_the_Often_Incorrect, greyorm, M. J. Young, Moah, LoreTG, simon_hibbs, Mike Holmes, Ben Morgan, ErrathofKosh.


6/24/2004 Zak Arntson: New Glossary Entry: Character Sheet
I just ran into trouble with the definition of a character sheet over at the Doing Away with XP thread. Perhaps this term should be added to the glossary? In…
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Participants: Zak Arntson, Doctor Xero, Alf_the_Often_Incorrect, John Kim.


6/24/2004 Noon: The basic enjoyment of SIS
Usually a lot of discussion goes on about what you can do with an RPG, taking the Shared Imaginatiove Space involved for granted to do what your interested in. But…
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Participants: Noon, timfire, Christopher Weeks, Ron Edwards, Doctor Xero, Silmenume, Alan, JackBauer, Ravien.


6/24/2004 Albert of Feh: Cooperative world creation
I haven't GMed anything in a while, but am hoping to change that in the near future. I would like to try a more player-protagonized narrativist game than I have…
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Participants: Albert of Feh, M. J. Young, hanschristianandersen, ethan_greer, Christopher Weeks, GreatWolf, Doctor Xero, Alf_the_Often_Incorrect, Mr. Sluagh.


6/23/2004 Ben Lehman: Expanding IIEE
Hi everyone. So I'm designing this little RPG Polaris which has it's IIEE ripped off somewhat from The World, the Flesh and the Devil by way of Otherkind and…
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Participants: Ben Lehman, Ron Edwards, lumpley.


6/23/2004 Noon: The gaming peers = friends thing
Recently wondering: Does the association of gaming together and thus being friends together (apart from geek falacies) also come from the game content? I mean, a lot of games sort…
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Participants: Noon, SlurpeeMoney, Jack Spencer Jr, matthijs, M. J. Young, Ron Edwards, Alf_the_Often_Incorrect.


6/22/2004 JamesDJIII: Forking the Build
It's been a long time coming, but I think my patience with sub-standard gaming has come to and end. I've complained long and bitterly in the past about some pretty…
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Participants: JamesDJIII, Andrew Norris, Ron Edwards, hanschristianandersen, quozl, Bankuei, M. J. Young, ErrathofKosh, Jack Spencer Jr, jeffd, xiombarg, simon_hibbs, John Kim, Blankshield.


6/22/2004 List: Inertia
I've noticed that it frequently happens that, because games are based around action, PCs end up jumping to action fairly easily. We picture starting a game with: GM: "You come…
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Participants: List, Andrew Martin, M. J. Young, TonyLB, beingfrank, captain_bateson, simon_hibbs, Mike Holmes, Noon, Halzebier, Doctor Xero.


6/22/2004 Jonathan Walton: Filing Edges: GM as Author
This is the second part of my reaction to Mike Mearls association that roleplaying has not really changed much and his definition of roleplaying inherantly requiring a Gamemaster figure. In…
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Participants: Jonathan Walton, lumpley, ethan_greer, Christopher Weeks, neelk, List, M. J. Young, Andrew Martin, Noon, aplath, simon_hibbs, Rob Carriere, Mike Holmes, timfire, Doctor Xero, Paganini, Asrogoth, John Kim, Ben Lehman.


6/22/2004 Jonathan Walton: Filing Edges: Demigods
I was thinking about Mike Mearls assertion that roleplaying design is just "filing off the edges" (now that I'm clearer on what he means), when I responded to a post…
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Participants: Jonathan Walton, Eero Tuovinen, Christopher Weeks, simon_hibbs, neelk, Zak Arntson, Trevis Martin, Ben Lehman, M. J. Young, TonyLB.


6/21/2004 JackBauer: An Idea for Diceless Play
First of all, let me say that this "system" (if you can call it that), is highly customizable and flexible, and I will try to convey that in this post.…
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Participants: JackBauer, Noon, Simon W, captain_bateson, ethan_greer, simon_hibbs, contracycle, xiombarg.


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7/3/2004 Noon: How well does this rule carry over its use?
I'm not sure the forge is into discussing house rules. But I will say what I'm about to present is damned likely to end up in anything I write, it…
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Participants: Noon.


7/3/2004 Jonathan Walton: PUSH comes to shove
Hey Folks, My new RPGnet column, PUSH, just started running this weekend. Just wanted to make an announcement in case people weren't regularly wandering over there. The first article is…
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Participants: Jonathan Walton, John Harper, Shreyas Sampat, montag, neelk, Emily Care.


7/3/2004 komradebob: Dispersed character player gamec designs?
Hi. This is sort of a broad question, but I'm wondering about game design possibilities that disperse character player duties. I've seen a lot of discussion about how Uni disperses…
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Participants: komradebob.


7/3/2004 timfire: Consensus vs. Individual Spheres of Influence
I apologize in advance, as my thoughts on this aren't very organized, but I've been thinking about it alot lately. I've been thinking about games that are developed by some…
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Participants: timfire, Shreyas Sampat.


7/3/2004 Paganini: Wushu and Fortune at the End
I'd never really encountered Fortune at the End in practice, until I bought Wushu. When I read about it in the GNS essay my response was basically "yeah, ok, that…
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Participants: Paganini, Andrew Martin, Shreyas Sampat, C. Edwards, Tony Irwin, hanschristianandersen, Dev, John Harper, ReverendBayn, Bob McNamee, Drew Stevens, ejh, MR. Analytical.


7/5/2004 dewey: Current social issues in RPGs
It's a split from the topic Feminist Game Design gone more generalized. While a movie/tv show/broadway musical/book/comic book/rock song/whatever may be a more powerful tool for conveying an idea to…
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Participants: dewey, Noon, M. J. Young, Erick Wujcik, Revontuli, Akos Szederjei, Jack Aidley, contracycle, Elkin, clehrich, Walt Freitag, CPXB, John Kim, ADGBoss, pete_darby, greyorm, Doctor Xero, Mike Holmes.


7/5/2004 clehrich: More on jargon and models [long]
I’ve been thinking about this topic for a little while now, actually since I had a nice chat with Alan McVey at a conference a month back, and when I…
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Participants: clehrich, MR. Analytical, Matt Snyder, greyorm, Erick Wujcik, Tim C Koppang, pete_darby, Rob Carriere, Ron Edwards, John Kim, timfire, komradebob, M. J. Young, Ben Lehman, Marco, Valamir.


7/2/2004 dewey: Feminist game design II (split)
everyone: I've just joined the Forge and saw this topic. I read the first page - don't remind me to do that - and I didn't find something I think…
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Participants: dewey, Andrew Norris, ADGBoss, greyorm, Matt Wilson, Christopher Weeks, AnyaTheBlue, Akos Szederjei, Ron Edwards.


7/8/2004 Kesher: The care & feeding of Behavior Mechanics...
I'm interested in people's thoughts on "behavior mechanics"; they get used in many different ways, & as I've been working on a Narrativist-centered game, I find the system's addressment of…
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Participants: Kesher, Sydney Freedberg, TonyLB, Bankuei, John Kim, MR. Analytical.


7/9/2004 Doctor Xero: a player's loss of freedom and control: a bit of a rant
I read in many postings various asides complaining about this loss of control or that loss of control as being universally and incontrovertibly abhorrent. I disagree. We all surrender freedoms…
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Participants: Doctor Xero, Kesher, Bankuei, Orec, Paul Watson, greyorm, Noon, MR. Analytical, NN, TooManyGoddamnOrcs, Valamir, M. J. Young, Mike Holmes, Tomas HVM, Bill C. Cook, Marco.


7/13/2004 TonyLB: Explicit and Emergent Rules
As I design, I increasingly encounter the choice between making rules that explicitly say "The game will be played in such and so a manner" and building a mathematical system…
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Participants: TonyLB, Andrew Morris, timfire, Shreyas Sampat, Valamir, Noon.


7/13/2004 Sydney Freedberg: Emotions Mechanics II: Emotion as Power
Over in the thread Emotion Mechanics and Losing Control of Your Character, the question, "is it okay for a system to tell you how your character feels and what…
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Participants: Sydney Freedberg, Eero Tuovinen, ErrathofKosh, TonyLB, John Kim, Mike Holmes, M. J. Young, Marhault, captain_bateson, Ravien, contracycle.


7/14/2004 Shreyas Sampat: Applied Design: Star Wars Shadows
This idea's been bubbling in my head for awhile, so I thought I'd toss it up in here as an example of what you can do with a cool game…
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Participants: Shreyas Sampat, Marhault, Victor Gijsbers, Jesse Paulsen.


7/14/2004 timfire: Freedom where you want it
Over in the Narrativism & Force thread, I thought Henri made an insightful comment that seemed to get largely ignored. I think the answer is that the definition of Force…
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Participants: timfire, Mike Holmes, Doctor Xero, M. J. Young, Noon, Marco, MR. Analytical, Jaik, beingfrank, Tomas HVM.


7/15/2004 Ben Lehman: Wait, What Matters Again?
Wait, what Matters again? Or The Extent of Sys Or "If you have a D&D game without orc-killing, is it Drift?" Or "No complete RPG will ever be made." Jargon…
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Participants: Ben Lehman, contracycle, Paganini, Marco, Kesher, John Kim, lumpley, Bankuei, efindel, John Harper, M. J. Young, MR. Analytical, Rob Carriere, Ron Edwards, Frank T, Tim C Koppang, TooManyGoddamnOrcs.


7/15/2004 madelf: consequences of magic
I need a sounding board, and you folks always work well for that sort of thing. I'm trying to chase down an idea that's floating around in my head about…
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Participants: madelf, Jaik, Victor Gijsbers, beingfrank, M. J. Young, contracycle, Mike Holmes, Ron Edwards, Gamskee, Radecave le Scribouillard, simon_hibbs, Eric J..


7/15/2004 ADGBoss: Setting as Part of System (Long)
In this thread. John Kim wrote: So here's the big question. So creating new characters in Timelord is a change to the system, just as much so as changing…
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Participants: ADGBoss, ErrathofKosh, Lxndr, John Harper, M. J. Young, Ben Lehman, Ron Edwards, John Kim, lumpley, simon_hibbs.


7/16/2004 Dev: One Hour Challenges
I was talking with Henri today post-game, about preferred lengths of gametime, and I mentioned that I hoped to get my GMing skills down to where you could play a…
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Participants: Dev, Paul Czege, Victor Gijsbers, Tim C Koppang, Ron Edwards, Rob Carriere, Noon, komradebob.


7/17/2004 Miskatonic: My suggested replacement for Bang
So I was re-reading Ron's Narrativism essay on the bus today, and came up with a much more compelling phrase for "Bang." Hot Potato You like? I like. To me…
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Participants: Miskatonic, John Kim, Alan, Bankuei.


7/18/2004 Jonathan Walton: Representation & Your Message
So I was talking with Emily Care over PM, and I was regretting that I hadn't waited a bit later to write Girls Don't Roleplay for my RPGnet column, because…
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Participants: Jonathan Walton, Ravien, Bankuei, Paul Czege, LordSmerf, Noon, Rich Forest, MR. Analytical, M. J. Young, Ron Edwards, SrGrvsaLot, contracycle, Doctor Xero, John Kim.


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