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6/18/2003 Jack Spencer Jr: Incoherent kit-bashing
From this thread What always puzzles me is that people who assert that incoherent game design is a good thing, because apparently it's desirable to tinker rules to taste,…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, Marco, Mike Holmes, Valamir, Ron Edwards, Wormwood, contracycle.

6/18/2003 Marco: Gamist Essay -- GOOD!
This isn't a post with a hella-lot of content--but I got finished with the gamist essay and ... it's *good!* The split of the challenge sections is insightful. The language…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Marco, Ron Edwards, Ted E. Childers, xiombarg, Mike Holmes.

6/18/2003 Ron Edwards: help requested
Hi there, Can someone take a quick peek inside all three print supplements and then email their ISBN numbers to David Seaward, at adams.west@saol.com? Many thanks! My computer access will…
In Adept Press
Participants: Ron Edwards, Trevis Martin, kwill.

6/18/2003 Le Joueur: No More Incoherence! - A Rant
Hey there, First off, let me apologize that this may be quite likely the last thing I ever post here, my life recently having been turned upside down (in the…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Le Joueur, Wormwood, Ron Edwards, Anon LeBlanc, Bankuei, ethan_greer, Marco, Jack Spencer Jr, Mike Holmes, John Kim, M. J. Young, Jake Norwood, C. Edwards, Green, Valamir, cruciel, Matt Snyder, contracycle, WDFlores, xiombarg.

6/18/2003 WDFlores: Iron City: Secrets & Subversives - A Working Draft
For reference, my initial and somewhat confused stab at all this is here: The Iron City. I started off on this project with the GNS model in the forefront of…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: WDFlores, Paul Czege.

6/18/2003 Jack Spencer Jr: Thoughts on kibitzing.
kibitz n 1. To look on and offer unwanted, usually meddlesome advice to others. 2. To chat; converse. kibitz v 1. make unwanted and intrusive comments I noticed something in…
In Actual Play
Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, cruciel, Julie, Matt Gwinn, Mike Holmes, Emmett, inthisstyle, jdagna, Comte, Ben Morgan, xiombarg, Jack Aidley, Paul Czege, mikeryan, Ian Charvill, Dave Panchyk, Ron Edwards.

6/18/2003 Green: seeking playtesters for IRC kathanaksaya
I am looking for between 3 and 6 playtesters for my game, Kathanaksaya. I prefer IRC because it is closest to the table-top and LARP roots of the game, but…
In Connections
Participants: Green, Lxndr, taalyn.

6/17/2003 demiurgeastaroth: Anti-Gamist, or Pro-what?
I enjoyed the gamist essay, but one thing Ron said puzzles me. And, completely differently, "balance" is often invoked as an anti-Gamist play defense, specifically in terms of not permitting…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: demiurgeastaroth, Bankuei, jdagna, Ron Edwards, John Kim, Wormwood.

6/17/2003 adamsmith: Problem with TROS character generator
I apologise if this has been covered elsewhere, but: the character generator appears to have a glitch whereby it gives 2 free points in each attribute that aren't counted towards…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: adamsmith, demiurgeastaroth, Brian Leybourne.

6/17/2003 Jeffrey Straszheim: The Tale of the Unwilling Trollbabe
I think that my wife and I will continue her Trollbabe's saga this weekend. I'd like to run some things by you folks. Here is the basic situation -- I…
In Adept Press
Participants: Jeffrey Straszheim, Jared A. Sorensen, Alan, Bob McNamee, Tony Irwin, quozl, John Harper.

6/17/2003 Morfedel: I am Necron, master of the undead!
Except I don't know how to create them. :) In the book, it talks about how sorcerers summon demons, etc. How do they create undead though? Zombies, things like that?
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Morfedel, Mayhem1979, Wolfen, Brian Leybourne.

6/17/2003 Morfedel: Weapon Defaults, the character generator, etc
Ok... I've been fooling around with the Character generator, and now i'm confused on something. IF I, say, raise Sword and shield, eventually it will trigger the default on mass…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Morfedel, demiurgeastaroth, Wolfen, Brian Leybourne.

6/17/2003 morgue: Has this mechanic been done?
I've been tooling around with an idea for a 'core mechanic', and I'm wondering if I'm walking into territory that has already been explored. I figure I am, because it…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: morgue, Jack Spencer Jr, ethan_greer, Mike Holmes, Stuart DJ Purdie, Jeph.

6/17/2003 Wormwood: Drift: Playtest Draft Available
Several months ago I posted about a game in progress named drift at http://www.indie-rpgs.com/viewtopic.php?t=4181&highlight=drift and http://www.indie-rpgs.com/viewtopic.php?t=4384&highlight=drift. I've just recently completed the core playtest draft, and am looking for comments and…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Wormwood, Harsh Tranquility, Mike Holmes.

6/17/2003 Durgil: Does Size Matter?
I've been working at putting together a Middle-earth campaign using my favorite rule system, TRoS, for some time now. A while back I picked up a copy of Decipher's LotR…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Durgil, Nick Pagnucco, demiurgeastaroth, Draigh, Mike Holmes, ruusu, Wolfen, Jake Norwood.

6/17/2003 Nick Pagnucco: Gamist case study attempt
I remember a thread (specifically a few posts within it) a while back about the use of GNS. The concluding argument was that the use of GNS is analytical; it…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Nick Pagnucco, Ron Edwards.

6/17/2003 Thierry Michel: Theme and mechanics
In this thread , the recommendation for a budding game designer is to "imagine the scene in your head and play it out as a game but without…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Thierry Michel, Mike Holmes, John Kim, damion, contracycle, Hunter Logan, Walt Freitag, Lxndr, pete_darby.

6/17/2003 Tuomo Aimonen: Which proficiency?
Why is there no proficiency for fighting with spear and shield? Should one just use the Sword & Shileld without the Cut offensive maneuver? Tuomo
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Tuomo Aimonen, Mayhem1979, toli, Jake Norwood, Gary_Bingham, zeke023, Wolfen, Mike Holmes, prophet118, Anthony I, Bomilkar, Mokkurkalfe, Salamander.

6/17/2003 Fabrice G.: Sorcerer : breaking the Binding and the binding strengh
Hi, In my last Sorcerer game (Famillyt ties, about witch I'll post later), the player asked me if he could break the binding with his demon. The rules are pretty…
In Adept Press
Participants: Fabrice G., Lxndr, Ron Edwards.

6/17/2003 adamsmith: Newbie battleaxe question
One of my players (we're just starting up a new game) wanted to have a battleaxe. Is this the same as a poleaxe, or is the battleaxe a 'made up'…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: adamsmith, Durgil, Mayhem1979, Jake Norwood, Jaeger, Salamander, Wolfen, Ashton, prophet118, Mike Holmes, Malechi.

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6/18/2003 Matt Snyder: Nine Worlds sample chapter
I've uploaded a sample chapter for the upcoming Nine Worlds print edition (the PDF will look much the same, just at letter-size). Chapter 1: Archons (400k+ PDF document) I've labored…
In Chimera Creative
Participants: Matt Snyder, Mike Holmes, Spooky Fanboy, Chris Passeno, Kester Pelagius.

6/18/2003 taalyn: Reward factors
I'm just looking for people's ideas for how they reward players with experience points and the like. For example, one factor I've seen is the "cool feat" point, granting the…
In RPG Theory
Participants: taalyn, Lxndr, jdagna, cruciel, M. J. Young, Mad-Eye Moody, Ben Morgan, Matt Wilson, Hunter Logan, Mike Holmes, Jack Spencer Jr.

6/19/2003 jburneko: Trollbabe Comic Stuck?
Is my computer just being weird or has the Trollbabe comic not updated at all this week? Jesse
In Adept Press
Participants: jburneko, lumpley, greyorm, Clinton R. Nixon, Ron Edwards.

6/19/2003 Jack Spencer Jr: mainstream appeal: What, exactly, does it mean to roleplay?
from No More Incoherence! - A Rant Call me strange; call me an outsider, someone who doesn't understand the hobby. But allow me this much: role playing games…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, Matt Wilson, Marco, Ian Charvill, Dr. Velocity, Fairie Princess, jdagna, contracycle, Michael S. Miller, Bankuei, ethan_greer, Paganini, M. J. Young, Comte.

6/19/2003 xiombarg: Pretender Revised
IIRC, this is the correct forum for "open comments" on a game, because Indie Design is for talking about more specific design questions. Well, I incorporated the proposed changes, and…
In RPG Theory
Participants: xiombarg, lumpley, Mike Holmes.

6/19/2003 rafial: FoRKs in Melee
So I've noticed that all the melee weapons skills list brawling, martial arts and each other as FoRKs. Does this mean that if I have both Sword skill and Brawling…
In Burning Wheel
Participants: rafial, taepoong, nebulous menace, abzu.

6/19/2003 Jared A. Sorensen: octaNe: revved up and revised rules
After playing octaNe once and running it twice, I'm a bit concerned with how things work. Not game play, per se...I think that the game itself is pretty cool and…
In Memento-Mori Theatricks
Participants: Jared A. Sorensen, Spooky Fanboy, Robert Leal.

6/19/2003 gobi: Tentative cover concept for PUNK
I was reading through some old threads about RPG cover art and I noticed someone mentioned that the "collage" theme of old-school movie posters, like Indiana Jones and Star Wars,…
In Publishing
Participants: gobi, greyorm, Jared A. Sorensen, quozl, samdowning, Lxndr.

6/20/2003 abzu: Unlisted Skills
Lately, couple of folks have mentioned missing skill descriptions. Frankly, there are just too many skills to describe. Skills that I felt needed no further description aside from their name…
In Burning Wheel
Participants: abzu, rafial.

6/20/2003 Spooky Fanboy: Nitpick: "Sleeper" in 9W
In your lexicon, it gives "Sleeper" as the term for those who remain ignorant of what's really going on. Mage uses the same word for the same thing. This game…
In Chimera Creative
Participants: Spooky Fanboy.

6/20/2003 Bailywolf: More Real World Sorcery
Does this not soundl like a cool twisted Sorcerer game to you: http://www.metro.co.uk/metro/weird/live/index.html?in_page_id=4 Girl marries dog A NINE-YEAR-old girl has married a stray dog in front of more than 100…
In Adept Press
Participants: Bailywolf, Bankuei.

6/20/2003 Morfedel: Plateaus: The Taveruun/Otamarluk/Savarastra Border
Ok, perhaps this is a stupid question, but.... It says that there is a plateau protecting Savarastra from Otamarluk (which doesn't matter, as they are paying Otamarluk tribute anyway); I'm…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Morfedel, Poenz, Mike Holmes, Gary_Bingham.

6/20/2003 zeke023: Any Swordsman on this list? SCA? etc?
I started doing SCA heavy weapons combat about a year ago. One of the reasons I was so impressed with TROS was the real research that they did into actual…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: zeke023, Salamander, Wolfen, Bankuei, Eamon Voss, Jake Norwood, Valamir, Ashton, Thorbrin, Krammer.

6/20/2003 Palaskar: An history of CRPGs (LONG)
Ron Edwards said: Then again, perhaps my surprise is a matter of my own subcultural limitations, if related hobbies are considered. Gamism remained alive and well among computer games like…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Palaskar, Wolfen, anonymouse, Comte, MadTinkerer, talysman, Hunter Logan, Eric J., Jeff Klein, Jack Spencer Jr, Mike Holmes, Caldis, M. J. Young, contracycle, Walt Freitag, damion, efindel, Tavish.

6/20/2003 Ben Morgan: Riddle of the Five Rings?
Okay, I did a search, but I couldn't find anything about the possibility of a Legend of the Five Rings to Riddle of Steel conversion. I thought it had been…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Ben Morgan, Paka, Jake Norwood, Claymore, Waiwode, Marc Hameleers.

6/21/2003 M. J. Young: A question about the function of the forum new posts reset
Well, that's probably a confusing title, but it was the best I could do. (I hate titles--it's always the hardest part in everything I write, and I'm always asking other…
In Site Discussion
Participants: M. J. Young, Jack Spencer Jr, Lxndr.

6/21/2003 Stuart DJ Purdie: Mind control and protagonisation
It's a staple of superhero type games. Player A has mind control powers, and uses them on NPC's to various gains. But the moment an NPC uses such an ability…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Stuart DJ Purdie, Andrew Martin, John Kim, Lxndr, M. J. Young, Jared A. Sorensen, Michael S. Miller, Mike Holmes.

6/21/2003 xiombarg: Lusting After Jesus, Part II: To Hell (Pretender Playtest)
A while back, I ran a second session of Pretender, with some rules modes I suggested in the previous thread, which you might want to check out to refresh your…
In Actual Play
Participants: xiombarg.

6/21/2003 Claymore: Adapting TRoS Combat to Burning Wheel
I realize that my words may (and probably will) be considered blasphemy, but has anyone considered adapting Riddle of Steel's combat mechanics to Burning Wheel. I happen to like most…
In Burning Wheel
Participants: Claymore, Valamir, abzu, Bankuei, Mike Holmes, Anton_Duelant, Ron Edwards, Durgil, rafial, Bracken, Poleaxe, Baron Guthwulf.

6/21/2003 Jack Spencer Jr: Gamist design invites repetition?
I was fiddling with some old video games when I noticed that it was doing the same thing over and over. This is not to say there isn't variety to…
In GNS Model Discussion
Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, Christopher Kubasik, jdagna, Mike Holmes, WDFlores, damion, John Kim, Marco.

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