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8/6/2002 Andy Kitkowski: It Has Begun... (aka Sorcerer at other upcoming cons thread)
So there's this local "speculative fiction" convention here in Durham, NC which is actually about half gaming and half literary SF (in other words SF authors and industry folk, not…
In Adept Press
Participants: Andy Kitkowski, Ron Edwards.

8/5/2002 Blake Hutchins: Ron credited for Kickers at Skotos
Hey all, Unsure which forum is the appropriate place to put this, but for what it's worth, Travis Casey has credited Ron for the concept of Kickers in the latest…
In Adept Press
Participants: Blake Hutchins, efindel, Ron Edwards, Ben Morgan.

8/5/2002 Bailywolf: Defining Humanity Through Play
Perhpas this is in 'Soul, but I don't have a copy (perhaps I should...). Defining Humanity always seems like one of the cornerstones set during the conception process of a…
In Adept Press
Participants: Bailywolf, Ron Edwards, Uncle Dark.

8/5/2002 Sneaky Git: Vikings and their toys..
Here's a question.. many Vikings (circa 1000 CE) used a broad axe as a personal weapon (rather than a sword). Supposedly, a warrior armed with this weapon was capable of…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Sneaky Git, Jake Norwood, Mike Holmes, Blake Hutchins, Mokkurkalfe, kviksverd, Valamir, Jaif, Wolfen.

8/5/2002 Mokkurkalfe: The tRoS Compendium
I'm wondering if anyone's interested in a tRoS "compendium", similar to what Blizzard(www.blizzard.com) has on their webpage to all their games. TRoS combat system alone is deep enough to warrant…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Mokkurkalfe, Nick Pagnucco, Jake Norwood, Sneaky Git, Wolfen.

8/5/2002 Matt Gwinn: GENCON Flyers
I'm trying to work up a Kayfabe flyer for GENCON. Which do you think is more effective: - big pictures with minimal text about the game - minimal pictures with…
In Publishing
Participants: Matt Gwinn, Jason L Blair, Jared A. Sorensen, Ron Edwards, Paul Czege.

8/5/2002 Tim Denee: paladins of hip-hop
I'm doing a paper on the history of african american music, and we had a lecture today about early (old-school) hip-hop. The Paladins of Hip-Hop (large parts ripped from "Wave…
In CRN Games
Participants: Tim Denee, Bob McNamee, Seth L. Blumberg, Silent Tamatama.

8/5/2002 Michael Hopcroft: Last-MInute GenCon Advice
This year's genCon will the the first time I run a booth at a convention. It will be 26 hours before I leave to go to SeaTac airport and fly…
In Publishing
Participants: Michael Hopcroft, Matt Gwinn, GreatWolf, Mike Holmes, Ron Edwards.

8/5/2002 jburneko: Lincoln High Sorcerer Demo
So, I ran the Lincoln High demo for a subset of my weekend group. The results were well, revealing. This post is divided into two parts. The first are my…
In Actual Play
Participants: jburneko, Jared A. Sorensen, Bob McNamee, Ron Edwards, A.Neill, Uncle Dark.

8/5/2002 Christoffer Lernö: Using the tool of "Character Class"
There's already a discussion on character classes, but this is not going into the theoretical stuff. I want to sort out how character classes can be used to assist in…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Christoffer Lernö, kamikaze, ADGBoss, M. J. Young, Paul Czege, simon_hibbs, Bob McNamee, jdagna, Mike Holmes, Jeremy Cole, Le Joueur.

8/5/2002 Jared A. Sorensen: GenCon Swag 4 Sale
After some crazy "run around like a chicken wit his head cut off" antics, I'm finally getting 'round to finishing up pre-Con preparations. To wit, I'll have the following swag-in-tow…
In Memento-Mori Theatricks
Participants: Jared A. Sorensen.

8/5/2002 Matt Snyder: GenCon promotion
This is directed mainly at Ron and Jason, but read on, oh brainstormers and fellow GenCon Forge booth sellers ... What, if any, kind of promotion can we do at…
In Publishing
Participants: Matt Snyder, Jason L Blair, Jared A. Sorensen, Ron Edwards, Michael Hopcroft.

8/4/2002 Ashren Va'Hale: WOO HOO!!!! Demo Time!
All right, the local RPG store in Falls Church VA finally is carrying TROS! I bugged them and bugged them, now I finally can do a demo! Me and a…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Ashren Va'Hale, Jake Norwood, Valamir, Lyrax.

8/4/2002 Daredevil: Heart of Darkness
[i]"I realized they were stronger than we because they could stand it. These men fought with their hearts, who have families, children, who were filled with love, but they have…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Daredevil, Robert K Beckett, damion, xiombarg.

8/4/2002 Riddlemaster: Armor ans Encumbrance
Does armor count toward total encumbrance or do you just ignore that and use the CP pentaties it garners by itself? Just wondering becuase seems a guy in PLate Armor…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Riddlemaster, Wolfen, Jake Norwood.

8/4/2002 Silent Tamatama: Paladins of Gen-Con inquiry
Paul Czege recommended the Paladin rpg as something that might be up my alley today and I was wondering if anyone who had a copy of the game was going…
In CRN Games
Participants: Silent Tamatama, hardcoremoose, Paul Czege, Bob McNamee, Ron Edwards, Jake Norwood, Clinton R. Nixon.

8/3/2002 Ron Edwards: Trollbabe debut at GenCon
Hello, Well, Trollbabe's ready for GenCon. I have a bunch of sales copies and the original printout for backup. The website's not ready yet, though - it has some features…
In Adept Press
Participants: Ron Edwards, Jared A. Sorensen.

8/3/2002 Tim Denee: new draft of final stand
[url=http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/timdenee/FinalStand.pdf]Final Stand again[/url] Not a whole lot changed. Added in a "basic resolution section", put in the skill mechanics devised by Bailywolf. Cleaned up a typo or two (incidentally, if…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Tim Denee, Bailywolf, Kenway.

8/3/2002 Riddlemaster: Last ones I promise
Sorry just got a few more.. Im doing a demp atthree diffrent game stores here in Jacksonville and i figure the way to get all the premade characters togther is…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Riddlemaster, Jaif, Jake Norwood, Mokkurkalfe, Wolfen, Sneaky Git, Brian Leybourne, Valamir, Durgil, Anthony I.

8/3/2002 Chade: differences in first and second printings?
I am just curious if there are any major changes between printings. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Chade, Wolfen.

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8/6/2002 Jason L Blair: Off To GenCon! Be back on August 12th!
The subject pretty much says it all. See everyone in a week!
In Key 20 Publishing
Participants: Jason L Blair.

8/6/2002 Ron Edwards: Into the Milwaukee hinterlands
Hi everyone, I'm leavin' for GenCon today, so everyone please play nice and keep an eye on the courtesy-levels, discourse-quality, etc, while I'm gone. I'll try to check in once…
In Site Discussion
Participants: Ron Edwards, Jared A. Sorensen, Clinton R. Nixon.

8/6/2002 Sneaky Git: A Question about Armor
I was looking at the character creation process as modeled in the revised printing of TROS.. and came across something that I'd like clarified: Vhord von Drieder, our intrepid Stahlnish…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Sneaky Git, Jake Norwood, ShaneNINE, Mokkurkalfe, Durgil, Wolfen, OllyG, Mike Holmes, Lyrax, Brian Leybourne, Sir Eldaen, Anthony I, Bob Richter, Jaif, Irmo, contracycle, Thirsty Viking.

8/6/2002 Rich Forest: Playing Final Stand
Played Tim Denee’s Final Stand last night. It was a short adventure, with just one player and one GM. It was a blast. The Character: Fai Yuan, the Mysterious Stranger…
In Actual Play
Participants: Rich Forest, Tim Denee, Valamir.

8/6/2002 GreatWolf: Setting focus
I happened to be perusing the review of The Riddle of Steel in the review database when I came across this sentence. "I think it would have worked better for…
In Dark Omen Games
Participants: GreatWolf, xiombarg, Mike Holmes, Ron Edwards.

8/7/2002 James V. West: TQB GenCon Draft
I've posted the latest draft of The Questing Beast. This is the draft that will be hanging out at GenCon even though my sorry ass will not be.
In Random Order Creations
Participants: James V. West.

8/7/2002 Jake Norwood: Going to GenCon
Okay, we're off to GenCon, so ol' Jake Norwood won't be around for a while. Be nice and kill each other cleanly. Keep the good threads up--when I came back…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Jake Norwood, Brian Leybourne, Mokkurkalfe, Wolfen, Lyrax, Mike Holmes, Bogie_71.

8/7/2002 Ace: TROS thread on ENWorld
There is a neat Riddle of Steel thread at ENWorld For the moment I am hyping (err explaining) the game to the crowd over there but anyone who cares to…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Ace.

8/7/2002 Christoffer Lernö: Ygg TOC Sketch
I'm trying to design Ygg from a specification now, working myself top down from a TOC to detailed rules. Or that's the plan anyway. Here's a snapshop of my progress.…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: Christoffer Lernö, ThreeGee, Matt.

8/7/2002 Mike Holmes: Sorcerer and Space demo
Well, I had a chance to run Sorcerer and Space for a fun group last night. Present were Ron, Josh , Jurgen, and Josh's friend Julie. Here's how it went.…
In Actual Play
Participants: Mike Holmes, Bailywolf, Ron Edwards, joshua neff.

8/7/2002 Le Joueur: What's a Metaphor Phor? Metaphorically Speaking. [LONG]
You know how it is; you think you've just about got it. Everyone keeps telling you to sit down and write your darn system, it's done. So down you sit,…
In RPG Theory
Participants: Le Joueur, Ron Edwards, Seth L. Blumberg.

8/8/2002 efindel: Aaaaag! Must... have... Donjon!
Sorry, just had to get that out of my system. :-) --Travis
In CRN Games
Participants: efindel, Bailywolf, Clinton R. Nixon, Ferry Bazelmans, wyrdlyng, Ben Morgan.

8/8/2002 Clinton R. Nixon: Sorcerer wins Diana Jones award
The subject says it all - a proud night for Ron and everyone.
In Adept Press
Participants: Clinton R. Nixon, Ian Cooper, Mytholder, Galfraxas, GreatWolf, Stuart DJ Purdie, Gary N. Mengle, jburneko, Le Joueur, Blake Hutchins, Fabrice G., rafael, Alex Knapik, greyorm, Matt, xiombarg, Christopher Kubasik, Tim Denee, Ron Edwards, Jason L Blair, Jake Norwood, Uncle Dark, Zak Arntson, Tim C Koppang.

8/8/2002 Mokkurkalfe: Which one's best?
ST and TO(big brute) or AG and WIT(quick guy)? The main(combat) reason for AG is the Reflex, and thus WIT is equally important. But for an increase of one CP-die…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Mokkurkalfe, Wolfen, Lyrax, Durgil, Bob Richter, Jaif, Jake Norwood, Mike Holmes.

8/8/2002 Lyter: Looking for Info on 'Knockdown'
In the index, for Knockdown it says pages 11, 19, and 81.. but none of these entries describes what the results of knocking someone down is? (BTW, I tried to…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Lyter, Mokkurkalfe.

8/8/2002 Bailywolf: Final Stand Playtest! (long)
I ran a quick one-shot for my almost entirely non-gamer fiance last night... and let me say, that Final Stand was a brilliant success with few hiches. I ran only…
In Actual Play
Participants: Bailywolf, Tim Denee, Colin the Riot, Paganini.

8/9/2002 Wolfen: Gladiators!
Okay, so I'm a night late on posting this... But here it is. The idea was originally conceived by Darren of Imperial Outpost Games here in Phoenix. His idea was…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Wolfen, Mokkurkalfe, Jake Norwood, Mike Holmes, Rattlehead, Nick Pagnucco, Jaif, contracycle, Ron Edwards, Unsane.

8/9/2002 simon: some rambling about skills & task resolution in an SF rp
Hello everyone! I’m trying to develop a SF RPG set in the not too distant future and in which the essence of what it means to be a human being…
In Indie Game Design
Participants: simon, Andrew Martin, ks13, ADGBoss, Mike Holmes, Balbinus, Ron Edwards.

8/9/2002 Mokkurkalfe: Greed...But not really
This was on a thread some time ago, but there wasn't any satisfying answer. Personally, I imagine that many adventurers are similar to colonists; poor lads and lasses who go…
In The Riddle of Steel
Participants: Mokkurkalfe, Nick Pagnucco, Ace, Mike Holmes, Jake Norwood, Jaif, Wolfen, Brian Leybourne, contracycle, Lyrax, Thirsty Viking.

8/9/2002 wyrdlyng: Paladin: Character Gen help
I understand the concepts behind Character Generation. It's just that I tend to use adjectives to describe a character rather than convert those traits into nouns. It's just an intuitive…
In CRN Games
Participants: wyrdlyng, Clinton R. Nixon.

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