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7/29/2005 Everspinner: Target Numbers, or the last bastion of GM fiat
Hello There is an area of game design that I have been wondering about for a while. Since it is something that must have been discussed before, I would appreciate it if you could point me to any good threads. Failing that, pointers to games that have tackled the issue, or opinions based on actual play would be most welcome.…
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Participants: Everspinner, GB Steve, Jack Aidley, daMoose_Neo, Noon, cruciel, Adam Dray, xenopulse, David Bapst, Gelasma, simon_hibbs, btrc, Andrew Norris, John Harper.


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7/29/2005 Halzebier: [The Pool] Various Questions
Hi there! I've never played The Pool, but I'm planning to and reading up on it. A couple of questions remain and since the Random Order Creations forum is inactive,…
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Participants: Halzebier, Gaerik, Ron Edwards.


7/28/2005 PrzeSzkoda: Character creation and immersion
Although I am posting this thread because I'm considering incorporating several ideas that I would like to discuss into a game I'm currently working on, I decided to do this…
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Participants: PrzeSzkoda, Ron Edwards, GB Steve.


7/27/2005 Eero Tuovinen: Initializing the roleplaying experience
So, I'm fiddling with game design a little bit, and I'm thinking on what makes the social and psychological event of roleplaying possible. What, in general terms, are the things…
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Participants: Eero Tuovinen, matthijs, komradebob, Trevis Martin, Miskatonic, Justin Marx, Jack Aidley, Paul Czege, Levi Kornelsen, rrr, ffilz.


7/26/2005 greyorm: Immersion, Childishness, and Understanding
Over in the Creator or Fan? thread, an idea came up that was discussed (barely) regarding Immersion and whether or not it is healthy. I said something about the idea…
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Participants: greyorm, John Kim, Thor Olavsrud, Clinton R. Nixon, ewilen, Mark Woodhouse, Ron Edwards, Frank T, Marco, Bankuei, J. Tuomas Harviainen, GB Steve, FroglarTBGE, xenopulse, contracycle, ADGBoss, Simon Marks, M. J. Young, James Holloway, Merten.


7/26/2005 Vaxalon: Reward systems need not be unified.
In "Narrativist games and "winning"? Ron says: I see reward systems as either being unified (perhaps with many interrelated parts, perhaps hierarchical parts) or broken - either the parts don't…
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Participants: Vaxalon, TonyLB, timfire, Justin A Hamilton, Sean, Ron Edwards, ewilen, Jack Aidley, Paganini, cruciel, komradebob, Master Marx.


7/26/2005 simon_hibbs: Resolving social conflicts amicably
Since Steve closed his thread, I'd like to re-orient the debate a little. I'll use this comment by Clinton as a startign point. .....I…
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Participants: simon_hibbs, Rob Carriere, cruciel, Albert of Feh, Vaxalon, Bankuei, Sydney Freedberg, Ron Edwards, Sean, xenopulse, lumpley, Thor Olavsrud, bcook1971, Resonantg, drnuncheon, TonyLB.


7/26/2005 Clinton R. Nixon: A psychological model of role-playing
I've posted this on my weblog before, but it got about as much response as a newspaper boy at the front door. So, here's the "Clinton R. Nixon Real Deal…
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Participants: Clinton R. Nixon, Paka, SlurpeeMoney, ewilen, John Kim, Noon, Miskatonic, ethan_greer, ADGBoss, Matt Snyder, Marco, Nathan P., cruciel, cognis.


7/25/2005 GB Steve: When does the conflict start - and why not roleplay it instead?
From this thread Capes Demo at DexCon 8: With the recent profusion of social resolution mechanics I've seen in a lot of indie games, I've been worried that they might…
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Participants: GB Steve, Jack Aidley, Clinton R. Nixon, Simon Marks, simon_hibbs, greyorm, Gaerik, Matt Snyder, Bankuei, Doug Ruff, TonyLB, Valamir, Mark Woodhouse.


7/25/2005 haiiro: How did you learn to GM?
I posted a question this morning on Treasure Tables, my weblog for GMs: how did you learn to GM? My rambling answer is there, in the post ("How Did You…
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Participants: haiiro, GB Steve, Clinton R. Nixon, simon_hibbs, TonyLB, Andrew Morris, Bankuei, Miskatonic, Justin Marx, ADGBoss, Remko, Noon, droog, Damballa.


7/24/2005 Mark Woodhouse: No power for me, thanks
This thread is an attempt to reorganize and elaborate on the proto-idea discussed in 'Creator or Fan?'http://www.indie-rpgs.com/forum/index.php?topic=16088.0 The basic question I am wrestling with is: can players who refuse GM-like…
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Participants: Mark Woodhouse, Nogusielkt, John Kim, bcook1971, beingfrank, MR. Analytical, Jack Aidley, greyorm, Noon, ScottM.


7/24/2005 Justin Marx: GMless play seems to only work where everyone is a GM?
I have a tentative idea, which combines some of my thoughts that have emerged from other threads. I have noticed that playing styles which advocate a large degree of narrative…
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Participants: Justin Marx, TonyLB, Vaxalon, Andrew Norris, komradebob.


7/24/2005 yesala: Big Setting + Open Character Gen = overwhelming!
I'm having a head scratching problem to do with character creation.  Since this issue can apply to any game, and I'm not looking for responses that are directly related to…
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Participants: yesala, Ron Edwards, Justin Marx, simon_hibbs, Vaxalon, ragnar, LogicaLunatic.


7/23/2005 Sean: Immersion and Handling Time
One complaint that theorists here sometimes receive from immersionist tabletop gamers and members of the Scandinavian LARP scene basically boils down to the following argument: 1) I like immersion. 2)…
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Participants: Sean, Mark Woodhouse, Ron Edwards.


7/23/2005 Mark Woodhouse: Creator or fan?
This post originated in a thread at rpg.net. I will be posting a parallel thread there as well, as I really want to hear from a few people who won’t…
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Participants: Mark Woodhouse, SlurpeeMoney, Damballa, Clinton R. Nixon, Sean, Miskatonic, Ron Edwards, greyorm, xenopulse, John Kim, Marco, John, Alan.


7/21/2005 Dangerboy: Simplicity to Complexity: can you make a sliding scale rpg?
While working on a generic RPG system I started to think to myself, can you make an RPG system that's built on a sliding scale? Like if you set your…
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Participants: Dangerboy, Grand_Commander13, Shreyas Sampat.


7/21/2005 Blake T. Deakin: Party split-up
So, I've been running an old pre-written adventure called "Night of a Thousand Screams" for L5R. This is a classic, linear game. Tragically, a lot of players are familiar with…
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Participants: Blake T. Deakin, Vaxalon, timfire, Andrew Norris, Troy_Costisick, Noon, ewilen.


7/20/2005 Andrew Morris: Turn-based structures in RPGs -- what are they good for?
Someone (RobNJ, I believe) recently pointed out that they dislike turn-based RPGs. Personally, I love 'em. Universalis, Capes, Ganakagok, Breaking the Ice...lots of my favorites use turns, in some form…
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Participants: Andrew Morris, TonyLB, komradebob, John Kim, John Harper, ewilen, bcook1971, Adam Dray, matthijs, Jack Aidley, Ron Edwards, Miskatonic, Valamir, Damballa.


7/20/2005 Hereward The Wake: RE Problem defining martial arts
This topic went quite while I was away. It is an area that I am very interested as I have been trying to something similar myself. Was anything developed from…
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Participants: Hereward The Wake, Resonantg, Miskatonic, FzGhouL, Latigo, John Kim.


7/20/2005 Resonantg: How important is system complexity?
G'day people; My question may have been asked before, and if so, please refer me to any links I may have missed. :c) During the development of my game, I've…
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Participants: Resonantg, TonyLB, Alan, FzGhouL.


7/19/2005 LandonSuffered: Race/Species in Fantasy RPGs: Is It Necessary?
This is another topic of discussion I’ve been aching to have, and I did not find any older threads on the Forge…if anyone has one, please post a link. Race…
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Participants: LandonSuffered, ewilen, Shreyas Sampat, SlurpeeMoney, Troy_Costisick, simon_hibbs, zircher, Jack Aidley, Rob Carriere, Justin Marx, killacozzy, Green, contracycle, M. J. Young, madelf, RobNJ.


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7/29/2005 Resonantg: Memetics in RPGs
I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but my searches on the site proved fruitless, so I'll bring it up. In the game world I'm dealing with (Orion's…
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Participants: Resonantg, Alan, Miskatonic, Vaxalon, Noon, contracycle, LogicaLunatic.


7/31/2005 Paganini: Social Functionality
In this thread: http://www.indie-rpgs.com/forum/index.php?topic=16180 Ron wrote: When games like The Great Ork Gods and The Mountain Witch are seen as revolutionary, whereas in fact they merely accord with the bare…
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Participants: Paganini, Noon, Jack Aidley, Justin A Hamilton, Ron Edwards.


7/31/2005 cruciel: A Dice Mechanic Riddle
So, I'm sitting around my house eating lentils and praying for divine punishment on whatever dark force is both preventing me from sleeping and denying me the lucidity of wakefulness,…
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Participants: cruciel, demiurgeastaroth, Matthew Chan.


7/31/2005 Levi Kornelsen: Desire, Action, Effect
Okay, simple challenge.  Pick something you did to change your game, and write it up something like this: 1. The change I wanted in my game was: Name something that…
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Participants: Levi Kornelsen, ephemere, Adam Dray, Nathan P..


7/31/2005 Andy Kitkowski: Gaming Theory Blogs That You Should Bookmark
Hey all, over on RPGNet I threw out a line to get links to several gaming theory blogs.  Since it sounds like some of the Forge's theory speak will (hopefully!)…
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Participants: Andy Kitkowski, chadu, Miskatonic, Paka, John Kim, Jonas Karlsson, haiiro, Grover, Ron Edwards, jaw6, Joshua BishopRoby.


8/2/2005 Silmenume: Regarding the "actual moment(s)” of Role-play.
Looking at the Big ModelTM we note that “play” is said to have actually commenced at the level described as “Exploration.”  So what has changed when the players switch from…
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Participants: Silmenume, Alan, Nathan P., Justin A Hamilton, Simon Marks, Ron Edwards, Caldis, Joshua BishopRoby.


8/3/2005 Hereward The Wake: Restricting/controlling choices for combat
This comes from many of the discussions of desiging combat systems. Working under the stress of life or death combat, much of what the combatant does happens instinctivley, if one…
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Participants: Hereward The Wake, LogicaLunatic, Troy_Costisick, bcook1971, Nogusielkt, Noon, simon_hibbs, drnuncheon, GB Steve, Black Iris Dancer, Valamir, M. J. Young, Justin Marx.


8/4/2005 M. J. Young: After Reading Cruciel's Dice Riddle
Cruciel's A Dice Mechanic Riddle got me thinking a bit, and although this lacks a few of the factors he wanted to include it struck me as an interesting mechanic…
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Participants: M. J. Young, ffilz.


8/5/2005 agony: Moral Question, Author Stance, and the planted player
I've been a lurker for a short while now and will not pretend to know a great deal about GNS.  I was not quite sure if my post fit in…
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Participants: agony, ScottM, Bankuei, M. J. Young.


8/5/2005 John Burdick: Connection between target numbers and purpose of dice resolution
In Target Numbers, or the last bastion of GM fiat and the earlier Difficulty/Success Needed as it relates to GM Fiat, there has been some mismatch in reactions and focus…
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Participants: John Burdick, btrc, Black Iris Dancer, David Bapst, cruciel, M. J. Young, ewilen, Joshua BishopRoby, Paganini.


8/7/2005 Noon: Address of Challenge: The care and feeding of
Split from: Gamism: Exploration of conflict & Address of conflict (Important to the context of this thread) I'm tackling that same question regarding RPG/board games with Power/Evil, and I'm not…
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Participants: Noon, David Bapst, xenopulse, komradebob.


8/8/2005 xenopulse: Complications Instead of Failure
Due to several recent discussions, I realized that one of the things I really like about most conflict resolution mechanics (e.g., Primetime Adventures' system) is that you can have interesting…
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Participants: xenopulse, ScottM, Silmenume, Ron Edwards, timfire, cruciel, M. J. Young, Balbinus, Joshua BishopRoby, ewilen.


8/8/2005 LandonSuffered: D10s, Add-Ons, and the Missing TN 11
Since this is a forum for game designers I thought I’d post this short question here. Background first: I’ve had some complaints in the past with D10 games that have…
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Participants: LandonSuffered, rafial, Adam Dray, Valamir.


8/11/2005 Calithena: Are these two things incompatible?
1. "You're in a cavern of undulating stone, with an ancient brass demon-idol hulking above its farther reaches. Three bestial humanoids stand guard before it, waving flails..." (During the battle,…
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Participants: Calithena, Alan, Ron Edwards.


8/11/2005 Darcy Burgess: Is that a Dingus in your Dice Bag? -- Real world Research
For the last several months, I've been tackling what amounts to a grand experiment: Shifting my group's focus towards conflict-res, primarily narr-structured games.  Where we were before would probably be…
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Participants: Darcy Burgess, GB Steve, M. J. Young.


8/11/2005 Sean: Are these two things incompatible?
To reboot my other thread - here are two posts about something I'm trying to work out, one original, one in response to a clarification query by Alan: ----------------------------------- 1.…
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Participants: Sean, GB Steve, contracycle, Andrew Norris, TonyLB, xenopulse, M. J. Young, Noon, Joshua BishopRoby.


8/12/2005 Sean: Puzzles and Monsters
In fantasy fiction, a lot of monsters are actually puzzles. That is, they are problems of the form: - Hero can't solve the puzzle (of the monster's weakness) = hero…
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Participants: Sean, TonyLB, Andrew Norris, contracycle, Jack Aidley, rrr, cruciel, M. J. Young, Balbinus, jaw6, rafial, Graham Walmsley, Noon, simon_hibbs, Vaxalon, xenopulse, Gamskee, GB Steve.


8/12/2005 Paul Czege: one player's quest to recapture the table-top RPG experience...
...in the medium of computer rpgs: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/issue/4/31 I can't decide if I think he failed for the same reasons he thinks he failed. Paul
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Participants: Paul Czege, Ron Edwards, Adam Dray, Rob Carriere, Andrew Norris, Artanis, Sean, cruciel, Resonantg, TonyLB, Gaerik, Noon, contracycle, GB Steve, Miskatonic.


8/13/2005 timfire: Resources on world/setting building
I'm in the research phase of a new project. I would like to research world/setting building. I would preferably like sources that discuss world-building in play, but in lieu of…
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Participants: timfire, Adam Dray, Jasper, Paganini, M. J. Young.


8/15/2005 Troy_Costisick: What Role Does Setting Play In System?
Heya, I'm working on a problem in my latest design, and am hoping to get some good input from you guys.  Let's say you have a finite ammount of space-…
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Participants: Troy_Costisick, Ron Edwards, GB Steve, Artanis.


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